Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2019, 06:29:40 PM »
Who’s “they”?

Lee Oswald and George de Mohrenschildt.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2019, 07:14:09 PM »
As well as the long paper bag.

Glad you brought up that subject....( The long paper bag)

There is testimony that Lt JC Day found a "gun case shaped ( triangular) paper bag" in the TSBD .  Roy Truly was with him at the time so we can assume that this discovery occurred after Day had taken the rifle to police headquarters and returned to the TSBD.   When Day spotted the "gun case shaped" paper bag he turned to Truly and asked if he'd ever seen the "gun case" before.   Of course Roy Truly denied that he'd ever seen it.   

Lt Day said that he folded the paper up and put it in his pocket and he never displayed this paper sack to anybody.

Where did Day find that "gun case"?   It must have been in a place where he would logically assume that Truly had ready access to ( like truly's office where three rifles had been seen by Lee Oswald on Wednesday  11 / 20 /63.
Why did Day fold it and put in his pocket without treating it as evidence??    He certainly knew that a large paper bag had been found in the SE corner of the sixth floor and it was suspected as being the wrapper used to smuggle the rifle into the TSBD.....So why didn't he treat the gun case shaped bag, as evidence and refrain from undue handling.???

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2019, 10:03:59 PM »
Lee Oswald and George de Mohrenschildt.

Cool story, bro.

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #187 on: October 30, 2019, 12:42:29 AM »
How silly!.... Talk about bizarre ideas!....  They had Lee's prints ....They had taken his prints on Friday 11/22/63.    Since the cellophane tape on the 3 X 5 card was a photo, it was a piece o cake to add Lee's palm print to the photo.  There was no need to try to to put the prints of a corpse on the rifle.  Did you know that a dead man doesn't sweat?
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Dryness or excess moisture (sweat) and heat are the biggest challenges to obtaining good fingerprints, so it is always recommended to come to your appointment with cool and dry, but hydrated hands.
https://www.atlanticscreening.com/livescan/fingerprintrejections/
It was reported that Fed acting guys entered the morgue and demanded privacy when Oswald arrived ....They apparently wanted something and were in a hurry to get it.

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #188 on: October 30, 2019, 02:42:23 PM »
True. However------https://www.atlanticscreening.com/livescan/fingerprintrejections/
It was reported that Fed acting guys entered the morgue and demanded privacy when Oswald arrived ....They apparently wanted something and were in a hurry to get it.

t was reported that Fed acting guys entered the morgue and demanded privacy when Oswald arrived ....They apparently wanted something and were in a hurry to get it.

I don't doubt that some intel organization wanted to be certain that the dead man was in fact Lee H. Oswald.    Since there is evidence that they had used an impostor  Lee Oswald at least once,  they wanted to be certain the dead man was in fact their secret undercover agent  Lee H. Oswald.     I seriously doubt that the visit to the corpse was to plant prints on the rifle.   Can you explain how they could have gotten the corpse to perspire and secrete oils through the skin ?
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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #189 on: October 30, 2019, 04:31:55 PM »
t was reported that Fed acting guys entered the morgue and demanded privacy when Oswald arrived ....They apparently wanted something and were in a hurry to get it.

I don't doubt that some intel organization wanted to be certain that the dead man was in fact Lee H. Oswald.    Since there is evidence that they had used an impostor  Lee Oswald at least once they wanted to be certain the dead man was in fact their secret undercover agent  Lee H. Oswald.     I seriously doubt that the visit to the corpse was to plant prints on the rifle.   Can you explain how they could have gotten the corpse to perspire and secrete oils through the skin ?

When Dick Russell published his book The Man Who Knew Too Much  we learned that Richard Case Nagell had dispatched ( murdered) a man who was using the name Lee Oswald on September (20 ?) 1963.   Nagell had been ordered to find "Oswald" and snuff him.....   And he did.    He removed papers and ID from the dead man and among the ID cards was a copy of a card that Lee Oswald had in his possession on 11 /22/63.  The card was a "uniformed Services Identification card " bearing the number N 4, 271,617.   The card that Lee had in his possession bore a photo of Lee Oswald...But the card that Nagell removed from the body of the impostor had a different photo.
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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #190 on: October 30, 2019, 04:35:23 PM »

I don't doubt that some intel organization wanted to be certain that the dead man was in fact Lee H. Oswald. Since there is evidence that they had used an impostor  Lee Oswald at least once they wanted to be certain the dead man was in fact their secret undercover agent  Lee H. Oswald. I seriously doubt that the visit to the corpse was to plant prints on the rifle. Can you explain how they could have gotten the corpse to perspire and secrete oils through the skin ?
As I am not an expert on all that I can only refer----    https://www.quora.com/Can-a-dead-body-be-identified-by-fingerprint

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Re: Did Roy Truly and/or Marion Baker Lie?
« Reply #191 on: October 30, 2019, 06:33:52 PM »
LOL!

Well, are you still prayerperson= Oswald advocate? I thought you have moved on to Oswald on the steps or Oswald in the lobby either of which, he should have been seen by Baker AND Pauline Sanders if at the front door entrance.

Where do you place  Oswald at the time that Baker is ascending up the front entrance steps to the right of the handrail?
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