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Online Tom Scully

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9620 on: June 28, 2020, 07:54:38 PM »
Paul do you think a bone spur flare up might see him bail? Certainly a more palatable late breaking candidate might offer the Republicans some hope.

Has there been any reporting in the states relating the firing of Geoffrey Burman from SDNY by Trump/Barr to the Epstein case?

Colin, I am not convinced, despite how frequently I include "fascist" in my posts, you fully understand how far to the right the majority of U.S. voters have been
"lead" to orient their political perspectives to, compared to just 85 years ago, when the empty stomachs of voters dictated their politics.

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The National Labor Relations Act of 1935 (also known as the Wagner Act) is a foundational statute of United States labor law which guarantees the right of private sector employees to organize into trade unions, engage in collective bargaining, and take collective action such as strikes. Central to the act was a ban on company unions.[1] The act was written by Senator Robert F. Wagner, passed by the 74th United States Congress, and signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The National Labor Relations Act seeks to correct the "inequality of bargaining power" between employers and employees by promoting collective bargaining between trade unions and employers. The law established the National Labor Relations Board to prosecute violations of labor law and to oversee the process by which employees decide whether to be represented by a labor organization. It also established various rules concerning collective bargaining and defined a series of banned unfair labor practices, including interference with the formation or organization of labor unions by employers. The act does not apply to certain workers, including supervisors, agricultural employees, domestic workers, government employees, and independent contractors.

The NLRA was strongly opposed by conservatives and members of the Republican Party, but it was upheld in the Supreme Court case of NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp. The 1947 Taft–Hartley Act amended the NLRA, establishing a series of unfair labor practices for unions and granting states the power to pass right-to-work laws. .....

Colin, contrast what the response to the tremendous sacrifice of the UK citizenry in WWII was, post war, creation of National Health Service, compared to what the response was in the U.S., in 1947, as highlighted in the last, bolded line of text in the quote box directly above.

There does not seem to be any viable replacement 2020 Trump-party replacement presidential candidate who is not Trump stained. Romney is the only "honest man" (cares more about country than party, and acted on his concern Trump had to be removed) remaining of the top tier and he is damaged goods, from the POV of most Trump supporters, i.e. the current majority of what was once the republican party, after losing its way since the Romney-Ryan ticket's 2012 fade.

Romney's 2012 running mate, Ryan, might have been worthy of consideration but he Trump-(cuck)olded himself.

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Trump Seems Resigned Biden Will Win: ‘He’s Going to Be Your President’
‘PEOPLE DON’T LOVE ME’
The remark comes after Trump told an Arizona reporter that Biden “will complete” the border wall.

Justin Baragona Contributing Editor
Updated Jun. 26, 2020 10:18AM ET Published Jun. 25, 2020 11:12PM ET
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Trump's only shield from state prosecutions, primarily in NY, but also exposed to possible criminal charges in the state of FL and in other states in which he owns businesses, is to remain in office for as long as he can manage to.

But, Colin, for America and the effect of its public health-economic crisis on much of the rest of the world, the biggest challenge going forward will not be Trump or his firing of U.S.A. (U.S. Attorney, SDNY).

The greatest problem is the one the wealthiest conservatives and their alleged "christian" political allies have purchased, propaganda manipulating a majority of U.S. voters to vote for candidates who demonize the poor and venerate concentrated wealth.


The record of complicity in this is shared by democrats in our "pay to play" political system of private funding of political campaigns because, going into this from late February, at least 50 percent of U.S. households had no wealth to permit them to donate to candidates.
Joe Biden was nicknamed the "senator from MBNA", a large credit card issuing bank holding company HQ'd in his home state of Delaware that was exceedingly generous to Biden and his late son, Beau.

Before the pandemic effect on the U.S., economy, up to 30 million U.S. small businesses employed 54 percent of U.S. workers.

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Small-business owners considering bankruptcy may be shocked to learn they could lose their homes
BY DAVID Z. MORRIS
June 10, 2020 7:30 AM EDT ....

The Federal Reserve cannot stop what Biden sponsored and helped set up, an evaporation of domestic U.S. consumer demand and a residential real estate collapse. The best opportunity to increase the federal minimum wage, for example, was the day after the 2016 election. It has not been raised since 2007, Pelosi lead legislation, and it cannot be done now that so many are unemployed.

Clinton fought off republicans and corporatist democrats for five years. This is yet another consequence of Jeb Bush, the Supreme Court majority, and Ralph Nader's 3rd party, stealing the 2000 election from Al Gore.
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Legislation to Overhaul Laws on Bankruptcy Dies as President Fails to Sign It
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Dec 20, 2000 - Pres Clinton vetoes legislation that proposed most sweeping ... down by pocket vetoing the bipartisan bankruptcy reform bill,'' Mr. Grassley said ...

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https://www.gq.com/story/joe-biden-bankruptcy-bill
How Joe Biden Helped Strip Bankruptcy Protection From Millions Just Before a Recession
Presidential candidates Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren have been fighting each other since the 2005 bankruptcy bill.
GQ - Oct 23, 2019

House of Cards - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/biden-bankruptcy-president/
Mother Jones - How Joe Biden helped build a financial system that’s great for Delaware banks and terrible for the rest of us.


TIM MURPHY NOVEMBER/DECEMBER 2019 ISSUE Nov 11, 2019
Joe Biden speaks to potential voters on the Dartmouth College campus during his campaign trail through New England on 23 August 2019.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/02/joe-biden-student-loan-debt-2005-act-2020
How Biden helped create the student debt problem he now promises to fix
The former vice-president and 2020 presidential hopeful backed a 2005 bill that stripped students of bankruptcy protections and left millions in financial stress.
The Guardian
Dec 5, 2019 .....
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9621 on: June 28, 2020, 08:39:11 PM »
Has there been any reporting in the states relating the firing of Geoffrey Burman from SDNY by Trump/Barr to the Epstein case?

Less about Epstein, more about Guiliani/ Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, Trump and Cohen and the porn star / Playboy model and National Enquirer, Ukraine etc.

Barr has moved to replace federal prosecutors in all regions where Trump and friends might face prosecution i.e. Florida, New York, D.C. etc.

This country is about to become Hungary.  Unsurprisingly, Trump loves Orban.  We're doomed.

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« Reply #9622 on: June 29, 2020, 12:39:57 AM »
Not unlike the Nixon resignation, it’s likely Senate GOP leadership will intervene and ask him to resign. The Senate is as stake here as well. They’ll likely appeal to Trumps narcissism and how badly it will look publicly in a sound defeat. He’ll feign an illness. My guess,  by August if poll numbers don’t improve, he’s gone. Cannot come soon enough Colin.

Benedict Donald doesn't need to feign an illness, his health has been rapidly declining for the last several months. His slurred speech and uncontrollable body movements are getting worse showing he has a neurological disorder. His inability to walk is evident in each video clip as well as needing two hands to drink a glass of water. His corrupt administration is hiding his severe health problems.

The GOP knows he's headed for a historic defeat and they are scrambling to save their own seats. Some have began to distance themselves from him while calling him out on issues. Lindsey Graham, Benedict Donald's top cheerleader, has begun to call him out. That's probably why Benedict Donald took him golfing so he can rein him back in. It will be interesting to see if Graham goes mute and back to being a cowardly cheerleader. 

I seriously doubt that Trump will resign even though he hates his job and doesn't want it anymore. If he resigns, New York state can arrest him on a variety of charges they have against him. Even a pardon from Pence won't help since those are state charges. That's why he is doing whatever it takes to win so he doesn't get charged. Otherwise, he would have bailed a long time ago like he did with his failed casinos.           

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9623 on: June 29, 2020, 01:03:42 AM »
He's way too vain for that. He'll rather go down and then claim the election was rigged in "the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world"!

The Senate is already lost for the Republicans. The stakes are against them. The Democrats only need to flip a couple of seats and they've got it. Trump doesn't care about the Senate nor the party.

Benedict Donald is not a Republican, he is a con man who hijacked the Republican Party for his own self interest. He also knows he is able to con the kool aid drinking base and used the issues of race and hate to gain control. The hypocrite Republicans threw out all their so called "conservative values" to where they no longer have Reagan as the face of the Party. The GOP is the party of Trump and they will go down to a massive defeat with him.

Currently on the Senate Election map Democrats have a 52-47 lead with 1 tie in South Carolina. AZ, CO, ME, MT are seats that look like definite pick ups.

IA and NC have small Dem leads and both GA seats are in play. Dems will lose AL so they need one more win to off set that loss. With a landslide victory the total should be from 53 to 54 seats total.

Biden has huge leads in Michigan and Pennsylvania. He has solid leads in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Florida. He has small leads in Ohio, North Carolina, Texas, and Georgia. He is barely losing in Utah, Iowa, Missouri, and Arkansas. With all the data, Biden has 406 Electoral Votes which includes states with small leads. 319 Electoral Votes with states he has solid leads.               

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9624 on: June 29, 2020, 01:07:27 AM »
Less about Epstein, more about Guiliani/ Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, Trump and Cohen and the porn star / Playboy model and National Enquirer, Ukraine etc.

Barr has moved to replace federal prosecutors in all regions where Trump and friends might face prosecution i.e. Florida, New York, D.C. etc.

This country is about to become Hungary.  Unsurprisingly, Trump loves Orban.  We're doomed.

I think more like Denmark in Hamlet's time John.

Epstein was charged in July 2019 by prosecutors in the Southern District of New York (Geoffrey Burman) with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking.

Six months before that, at his confirmation hearing, Barr was asked if he would investigate the handling of a decade-old Florida plea deal that let Epstein escape responsibility for his conduct. He said he thought his former law firm was involved in the case so he might have to recuse. Although Barr did ultimately recuse from an investigation into the Florida case, he did not from SDNY’s case. Barr’s father was the headmaster of an elite New York City school that hired college dropout Epstein to teach math and physics.

In addition to the law-firm conflict, Alex Acosta, who served in Donald Trump’s Cabinet with Barr, was the U.S. Attorney in Miami when Epstein received his travesty of a plea deal. In 2007–2008, as U.S. attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that allowed human-trafficking ring-leader Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to a single state charge of solicitation, in exchange for a federal non-prosecution agreement. After Epstein's arrest in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges, Acosta faced renewed criticism for his role in the 2008 non-prosecution agreement and he resigned on July 19.

Given the President’s past relationship with Epstein and concerns that Barr had acted as the President’s lawyer rather than the people’s with regard to the Russia investigation, should have dictated that he recuse from the SDNY case.

Following Epstein's "suicide" Barr said that he personally reviewed security footage that confirmed that no one entered the area where Epstein was housed on the night he died. How reassuring.

Most recently Barr, said  that Donald Trump had fired Geoffrey Berman, the US attorney for the southern district of New York who oversaw the case of Jeffrey Epstein.

This whole story stinks to high hell.

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« Reply #9625 on: June 29, 2020, 01:23:11 AM »
Every day. Every day with the maniac in the WH is Groundhog Day. Read his body language. He’s going down big and he knows it. Expect a resignation. He hates being humiliated.  It cannot come soon enough.

Paul may certainly be correct. Just saw this, very interesting. So, if Benedict Donald drops out who would they prop up next?

BREAKING— (thread) GOP operatives are for the first time raising the possibility that @realDonaldTrump could drop out of the race if his poll numbers don’t rebound. Over the weekend I spoke to a sample of major players; one described Trumps current psyche as “fragile.” That said the speculation indicates how tense GOP operatives are about Trump losing and the party losing the senate and having their entire agenda abolished in a leftist wave election. Again lots of time and Trump has endured a horrible couple of months but that’s the snap shop.

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« Reply #9626 on: June 29, 2020, 03:30:38 AM »
Where is "Eva Braun" Storing?

Thoughtful selection of retweets, including one about Pence falling, and a tweet earlier today from Lisa Page, who, if you recall, der bleater threatened with the death penalty, by:
(If you're old enough, recall the similarity with former college football stand out, unelected President Ford's ungainly gait and his golf swing victims.)
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9627 on: June 29, 2020, 03:41:36 AM »
I think more like Denmark in Hamlet's time John.

Epstein was charged in July 2019 by prosecutors in the Southern District of New York (Geoffrey Burman) with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking.

Six months before that, at his confirmation hearing, Barr was asked if he would investigate the handling of a decade-old Florida plea deal that let Epstein escape responsibility for his conduct. He said he thought his former law firm was involved in the case so he might have to recuse. Although Barr did ultimately recuse from an investigation into the Florida case, he did not from SDNY’s case. Barr’s father was the headmaster of an elite New York City school that hired college dropout Epstein to teach math and physics.

In addition to the law-firm conflict, Alex Acosta, who served in Donald Trump’s Cabinet with Barr, was the U.S. Attorney in Miami when Epstein received his travesty of a plea deal. In 2007–2008, as U.S. attorney, Acosta approved a plea deal that allowed human-trafficking ring-leader Jeffrey Epstein to plead guilty to a single state charge of solicitation, in exchange for a federal non-prosecution agreement. After Epstein's arrest in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges, Acosta faced renewed criticism for his role in the 2008 non-prosecution agreement and he resigned on July 19.

Given the President’s past relationship with Epstein and concerns that Barr had acted as the President’s lawyer rather than the people’s with regard to the Russia investigation, should have dictated that he recuse from the SDNY case.

Following Epstein's "suicide" Barr said that he personally reviewed security footage that confirmed that no one entered the area where Epstein was housed on the night he died. How reassuring.

Most recently Barr, said  that Donald Trump had fired Geoffrey Berman, the US attorney for the southern district of New York who oversaw the case of Jeffrey Epstein.

This whole story stinks to high hell.
I agree with you on Epstein. However, he's out of the picture now.

The other cases I mentioned involve living - at least for the moment, ha! - individuals tied to the rotting carcass of our orange leader.

So, I think we are both onto something big.

Remember, Barr is the one who undid the whole Iran Contra prosecution, in his previous tenure as AG.
Saved Bush 41's ass.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9628 on: June 29, 2020, 05:10:28 AM »
Trump thanked 'great people' shown in Twitter video in which a man chants 'white power'



Donald Trump on Sunday morning widely shared a video he said is from the Villages, a retirement community in Florida, in which a man driving a golf cart with Trump campaign posters is seen chanting "white power."

The President retweeted the video that showed the community's Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters arguing with one another. The President thanked the "great people" shown in the video.

"Thank you to the great people of The Villages. The Radical Left Do Nothing Democrats will Fall in the Fall. Corrupt Joe is shot. See you soon!!" he wrote in the tweet. Roughly three hours later, the tweet no longer appeared in Trump's timeline.

"President Trump is a big fan of the Villages. He did not hear the one statement made on the video. What he did see was tremendous enthusiasm from his many supporters," White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere said in a statement.

Before the tweet was deleted, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott, the only Black senator in the Republican conference, said on Sunday that the video retweeted by the President was offensive and "indefensible."

"There's no question. He should not have retweeted and he should just take it down," Scott said on CNN's "State of the Union" with Jake Tapper. US Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar told Tapper he hadn't seen the video, which was played on the same news program, or the President's tweet, "but obviously neither the President, his administration nor I would do anything to be supportive of white supremacy or anything that would support discrimination of any kind."

Azar declined to comment further when Tapper asked if it was a mistake by the President. "But obviously the President and I and his whole administration would stand against any acts of white supremacy."

Former national security adviser John Bolton told Tapper on "State of the Union" that it's possible that Trump tweeted the video because he saw a "Trump 2020" sign and had not paid attention.

"It may be that you can draw a conclusion that he heard it, and it was racist, and he tweeted it to promote the message. It is a legitimate conclusion to draw. It is also entirely legitimate to say he just had no idea what else was in the video other than the Trump sign," Bolton said.

Democratic National Committee's chair Tom Perez responded Sunday, calling Trump's actions "simply indefensible." "This president tries to claim ignorance, but the consistency of his actions -- on Charlottesville and most recently Lafayette Square -- drown out his vacuous words," Perez said in a statement.

The video Trump had retweeted, and then was deleted, appears to be from a June 14 parade organized by the Villagers for Trump. In the video, the anti-Trump protesters are seen and heard angrily shouting profanities at the Trump supporters. David Gee, the founder of the Villagers for Trump, told CNN on Sunday that the man who chanted "white power" is not a member of the group and he does not know who he is.

"Would I condone somebody within our organization to talk about white power? I absolutely would not. I would absolutely condemn that," Gee said..He added that "As the head of our organization, I absolutely run our organization as a quasi-Christian type of a club and the Bible does not discriminate. My bible tells me that God loves everybody."

The message was echoed by John Calandro, who coordinates media for the group.

"No one apparently knows who the individual was," Calandro told CNN, adding, "This was an unfortunate incident. This is not indicative of the people who live here."

The president of the Villages' Democratic Club, Chris Stanley, told CNN that her club had not organized a counter-rally that day, but that the run-in was from some members being in the area for another rally.

Trump has stoked racial tensions in the US throughout his presidency and has recently used race-baiting rhetoric as he seeks to fire up his base to win a second term in office.

Trump often denies his language is racist or inflammatory and dismisses criticism of such rhetoric as political correctness. He also has long denied being racist and claims that he's done more for the Black community than any other president. Trump used a racist term, the "kung flu," to describe the coronavirus at his recent Tulsa, Oklahoma, rally.

Amid nationwide protests over racial injustice and police brutality this month, the President has retrenched into divisive themes instead of seeking a unifying tone.

He has opposed changing the names of certain bases honoring Confederate commanders and he and his administration have taken steps to protect national monuments as some protesters have attempted to tear down Confederate statues themselves.

Last week, Trump tweeted seemingly random videos portraying White people being assaulted by Black people, asking in one, "Where are the protesters?" He warned protesters in Minneapolis that "when the looting starts, the shooting starts," a phrase that originated in the 1960s with a Miami police chief accused of racism.

Trump's 2020 rival, the presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden compared Trump's tweet Sunday to his 2017 comments blaming "both sides" for violence between white nationalists and counter-protesters at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. "We're in a battle for the soul of the nation — and the President has picked a side. But make no mistake: it's a battle we will win," Biden said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #9629 on: June 29, 2020, 05:16:14 AM »
'Several' US soldiers were killed by Afghan insurgents that were paid by Russia: report




The Russian bounties resulted in the deaths of several U.S. service members in Afghanistan, the Washington Post reported Sunday. These deaths were from 2018 and 2019, according to the report so it’s unclear what the number of soldiers could be. There were 10 deaths in Afghanistan in 2018 and 16 in 2019, so reporters are trying to gather the exact number of those deaths that resulted in bounty cash from Russia.

The Post cited “intelligence gleaned from U.S. military interrogations of captured militants in recent months.”

“Several people familiar with the matter said it was unclear exactly how many Americans or coalition troops from other countries may have been killed or targeted under the program,” said the Post. “U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffered a total of 10 deaths from hostile gunfire or improvised bombs in 2018, and 16 in 2019. Two have been killed this year. In each of those years, several service members were also killed by what are known as “green on blue” hostile incidents by members of Afghan security forces, which are sometimes believed to have been infiltrated by the Taliban.”

The intelligence was reportedly given to the U.S. Special Operations forces in Afghanistan and then handed revealed in a high-level meeting at the White House in late March. President Donald Trump has denied he and the VP knew anything about it.

“The meeting led to broader discussions about possible responses to the Russian action, ranging from diplomatic expressions of disapproval and warnings to sanctions, according to two of the people,” said the Post. “These people and others who discussed the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity because of its sensitivity.”

Both Republicans and Democrats have called for an investigation into why this wasn’t known by the president and if it was in the Presidential Daily Briefing, which Trump is known to ignore. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), who is not only a speaker but also is. on the House Intelligence Committee, said that she wasn’t briefed on the situation. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) also said that the Senate Intelligence Committee wasn’t briefed either.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/several-us-soldiers-were-killed-by-afghan-insurgents-that-were-paid-by-russia-report/

 

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