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Online Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5080 on: March 31, 2020, 12:21:08 AM »

Online Tom Scully

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« Reply #5081 on: March 31, 2020, 12:37:18 AM »

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The fact is the US response so far to the Covid-19 crisis looks to be about as inept as one could imagine. Given the candidates likely to battle it out in the upcoming election for your leader, good luck. I just hope that Soylent Grey is abandoned as a concept by those who are normally "pro-life".

Colin, except for Bernie Sander's age, and 30-somthing percent of 2016 voters, 75 percent of the 63 million who voted for Trump,

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…..They are, for the most part, developmentally wounded “authoritarians”, which means they submit readily to authority....

https://twitter.com/BandyXLee1/status/1244463041913200640

….of the most pressing issues, what is it you think is not "on the table". IOW, it is the voters, not the proposed changes that are the real problem.

We are experiencing a sudden collapse of the "employer provided healthcare" excuse for not fully embracing a "single payer" universal healthcare policy.
We have a larger percentage of covid-19 victims with previously undertreated underlying conditions than the countries with universal healthcare as national policy.

Civilized countries improve their residents' access to healthcare. The Trump party policy is devoted to dismantling it.

We've experienced a collapse of predatory capitalism as institutionalized and almost literally propped up to the death, as official national policy, twice in twelve years.

Everything Trump touches..... Trump and his son-in-law Kushner are precisely what Thorstein Veblen thought was disqualifying about capitalism.
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Our tax dollars and mushrooming national debt actually support this, and drug manufacturer, predatory pricing.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/business/coronavirus-us-ventilator-shortage.html
The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed.
As the coronavirus spreads, the collapse of the project helps explain America’s acute shortage.

By Nicholas Kulish, Sarah Kliff and Jessica Silver-Greenberg
March 29, 2020

Thirteen years ago, a group of U.S. public health officials came up with a plan to address what they regarded as one of the medical system’s crucial vulnerabilities: a shortage of ventilators.
The breathing-assistance machines tended to be bulky, expensive and limited in number. The plan was to build a large fleet of inexpensive portable devices to deploy in a flu pandemic or another crisis.
Money was budgeted. A federal contract was signed. Work got underway.
And then things suddenly veered off course. A multibillion-dollar maker of medical devices bought the small California company that had been hired to design the new machines. The project ultimately produced zero ventilators.
That failure delayed the development of an affordable ventilator by at least half a decade, depriving hospitals, states and the federal government of the ability to stock up. The federal government started over with another company in 2014, whose ventilator was approved only last year and whose products have not yet been delivered.....

There is one presidential candidate advocating in the public interest. Yes, he is old, but the voters are to blame if they still do not understand the U.S. has avoided a stated policy of a national purpose. Capitalism, as drummed into us through public relations and campaign contributions, is intentionally indifferent about whether we live or die, enjoy environmental protection, economically sustainable military and intelligence activity, or attempt to responsibly address climate change, race relations, foreign relations, gun culture, or equal rights, under the law, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

https://morningconsult.com/form/tracking-public-opinion-on-the-coronavirus/
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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5082 on: March 31, 2020, 01:31:32 AM »
"Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one."
Dirty Harry


President Trump's Approval Ratings Up 6 Points Among Democrats and 8 Points With Independent Voters

Damn, and I thought Biden was the opponent in November. Why the change? I wonder how Obama told Joey "You're out" and the old hag Hillary is in.
 
I knew it the whole time, but you, on the other hand, are still preoccupied with assholes.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5083 on: March 31, 2020, 02:18:21 AM »

President Trump's Approval Ratings Up 6 Points Among Democrats and 8 Points With Independent Voters

Damn, and I thought Biden was the opponent in November. Why the change? I wonder how Obama told Joey "You're out" and the old hag Hillary is in.
 
I knew it the whole time, but you, on the other hand, are still preoccupied with assholes.

you, on the other hand, are still preoccupied with assholes.

Just one, Peter... just you and only you

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5084 on: March 31, 2020, 02:55:58 AM »

President Trump's Approval Ratings Up 6 Points Among Democrats and 8 Points With Independent Voters

Damn, and I thought Biden was the opponent in November. Why the change? I wonder how Obama told Joey "You're out" and the old hag Hillary is in.
 
I knew it the whole time, but you, on the other hand, are still preoccupied with assholes.

 :D :D :D

Peter might want to check the polls again. Biden is crushing criminal Benedict Donald in the Fox Poll and in the Harvard CAPS Harris Poll:

New Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll has Joe Biden beating Donald Trump 55-45

Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 10 points nationally in a new poll, bolstered by an advantage with independents.

The poll also shows pessimism about the economy growing, a factor that could help Biden and hurt Trump in the Poll:

The latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll finds Biden getting 55 percent support, versus 45 percent for Trump. Biden has 96 percent support from Democrats, while Trump has 89 percent support from Republicans. Independents break for Biden by a 54 to 46 percent margin.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has yet to drop out of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, also leads Trump, winning 53 percent to Trump’s 47 percent. However, Biden has a near-insurmountable lead in delegates over Sanders. Biden leads Sanders among Democrats nationally by 36 points, 58 to 31 percent.


Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5085 on: March 31, 2020, 03:04:13 AM »
'His incompetence will cost lives': Joe Biden goes after Trump on coronavirus in new 2020 campaign ad

Former Vice President Joe Biden is continuing to campaign for president in spite of the COVID-19 pandemic hitting America.

On Saturday, Biden went after Trump on the issue of coronavirus testing.

“Where are the tests, Mr. President?” Biden asked.

Biden followed up with an online video warning that lives will be needlessly lost.

“His failure will cost lives,” the video says. “His downplaying will cost lives. His incompetence will cost lives.”

“His ego will cost lives,” the video added.

Watch the ad:

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/his-incompetence-will-cost-lives-joe-biden-goes-after-trump-on-coronavirus-in-new-2020-campaign-ad/


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5086 on: March 31, 2020, 05:35:44 AM »
'His incompetence will cost lives': Joe Biden goes after Trump on coronavirus in new 2020 campaign ad
On Saturday, Biden went after Trump on the issue of coronavirus testing. “Where are the tests, Mr. President?” Biden asked. Biden followed up with an online video warning that lives will be needlessly lost. “His failure will cost lives,” the video says. “His downplaying will cost lives. His incompetence will cost lives.” “His ego will cost lives,”   
 
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President Barack Obama declared Swine Flu a national emergency in the United States. On November 12, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 22 million Americans had been infected with 2009 A H1N1 and 4,000 Americans have died.
No one blamed Obama for any deaths.
Schmoe Biden is a pompous ass. What did he ever do to shore up the CDC. Trump did not cut funds to the Center despite Biden's lies saying that he did.

Online Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5087 on: March 31, 2020, 06:23:46 AM »
you, on the other hand, are still preoccupied with assholes.

Just one, Peter... just you and only you

I worry he's become hemorrhoidal.  ;)

Online Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5088 on: March 31, 2020, 07:01:52 AM »
  No one blamed Obama for any deaths.
Schmoe Biden is a pompous ass. What did he ever do to shore up the CDC. Trump did not cut funds to the Center despite Biden's lies saying that he did.

Surely Fox reporters came up with "nasty" questions for Obama. Were they asleep? What was the point of Crimson Contagion if no one took any notice at the top? Quid pro quo turns into quid pro flu.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5089 on: March 31, 2020, 07:30:04 AM »
No one blamed Obama for any deaths.
Schmoe Biden is a pompous ass. What did he ever do to shore up the CDC. Trump did not cut funds to the Center despite Biden's lies saying that he did.

That's because Obama was on top of things and didn't gut the CDC like Benedict Donald did. President Obama didn't lie to the American people calling it a "hoax" and ship 17.8 tons of medical supplies to China while attacking hospitals, nurses, and doctors of stealing, medical supplies and selling them for profit like the pathological liar Benedict Donald is doing each day. Pathological liar Benedict Donald blamed President Obama for depleting the medical supply stock which is a blatant lie. Benedict Donald shipped 17.8 tons of our medical supplies and equipment to China and lies blaming Obama for his own ineptness and most likely corruption.

Joe Biden made sure the CDC was fully funded and established new programs that Benedict Donald cut. Jerry, you should learn the facts before you spout off nonsense and embarasss yourself. You have no clue what you're talking about. Benedict Donald himself admitted he made cuts with his bogus defenses for doing it. I suggest you read independent news instead of the right wing propaganda you listen to. That's why you have no clue what you're talking about.

Trump defends huge cuts to the CDC's budget by saying the government can hire more doctors 'when we need them' during crises

February 27, 2020

Trump defended his huge CDC budget cuts during a press conference on the federal government's response to the coronavirus.

"I'm a businessperson. I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them," Trump said. "When we need them, we can get them back very quickly."

Experts said restoring funding to a government agency could be a cumbersome process, which requires an act from Congress that needs to be signed into law.

The White House has spent two years cutting the CDC's budget.


Donald Trump defended his huge budget cuts to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention during a Wednesday press conference on the federal government's response to the coronavirus.

He said it was easy to bolster the public-health agency and cited his business approach toward running the federal government.

"I'm a businessperson. I don't like having thousands of people around when you don't need them," Trump said. "When we need them, we can get them back very quickly."

The president said some of the experts targeted by the cuts "hadn't been used for many years" and that additional federal money and new medical staffers could be obtained swiftly since "we know all the good people."

The remarks come amid warnings from CDC experts that the virus' spread in the US was "inevitable" and urged Americans to prepare. But the Trump administration has spent the last two years gutting critical positions and programs that health experts say weakened the federal government's ability to manage a health crisis.

In 2018, the White House eliminated a position on the National Security Council tasked with coordinating a global pandemic response. The CDC that same year also axed 80% of its efforts combating disease outbreaks overseas because its funds were depleted.

In its latest budget proposal, the Trump administration sought to cut CDC funding by 16% — even as Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar seeks emergency spending from lawmakers to combat the coronavirus.

It has spread to at least 47 countries so far, beyond its point of origin in China and particularly in Europe. The US has 60 confirmed cases so far, though the vast majority of them sprung overseas.

Jen Kates, the director of the Global Health and HIV Policy Program at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said in an email to Business Insider that the latest round of proposed budget cuts "would certainly hamper the work of the agency."

She noted the CDC has "already been grappling with tight resources for addressing the nation's public health, as well as domestic and global health security threats."

"To date, such funding has been episodic, typically coming only after outbreaks hit a tipping point and rarely being enough to shore up resources in the long run," Kates said.

Other experts elaborated on the cumbersome process to shore up a government agency that's been battered by rounds of budget cuts.

Don Moynihan, a public management professor at Georgetown University, said in a tweet that "once you have gutted institutional capacity you cannot, in fact, quickly restore it."

Appropriating federal money to the CDC would require a bill from Congress that passes both chambers and gets Trump's signature, said Bobby Kogan, the chief mathematician for the Senate Budget Committee.

"In addition to requiring a new law to be passed to hire people, you have to actually, you know, spend the time to hire people," Kogan said in a tweet.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/trump-defends-cuts-cdc-budget-federal-government-hire-doctors-coronavirus-2020-2-1028946602

 

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