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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2530 on: January 15, 2020, 07:12:11 AM »
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     The above being evidence of an obsessed individual. Or as Trump would put it, "One sick puppy". Plus, it's only going to escalate as Nov. draws near.

The above is evidence justifying my informed, determined effort to assist readers in identifying who is fanatically committed to lying to them, constantly.
...And highlighting the freakish, carnival barker symptoms resulting from being seduced into a cult of personality. It ain't pretty....

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Jimmy Kimmel's Emotional Monologue: His New Son's Heart Condition
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/02/arts/television/jimmy-kimmel-baby-son-wife.html
May 2, 2017 - Jimmy Kimmel shared the news on Monday of his new son, who was born with severe heart defects requiring emergency surgery. ... Conan O'Brien is a little bothered by the foreign leaders Mr. Trump has chosen to praise ...

Tenth time asking you.... why would anyone except a wealthy Trump party donor, expecting a return on investing in Trump party, or a white nationalist, vote for Trump?

I'll prod you with an example you could reply with. "Of course everyone should vote for more Trump. Any POTUS who would lie like this, again and again, about an issue as vital as access to affordable healthcare, is too irresistible to pass up the opportunity to keep in the white house. EFF, Jimmy Kimmel's kid, born with a heart condition!"
"Trump babble," earlier tonight in Wisconsin. Machine translation picked up no mention of the word, Foxconn, by Trump.

https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-speech-kag-rally-milwaukee-wisconsin-january-14-2020

C-Span video = https://www.c-span.org/video/?467870-1/president-trump-campaigns-milwaukee-wisconsin&live
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01:06:20 - 01:06:40 (20 sec)

They want to take away your private health insurance. We will protect patients with preexisting conditions like nobody else, and we will protect your pre-existing physicians, which you've had to get rid of which you will have to get rid of when this new plan never happens that don't work, it's not going to it's not going to Happen, i wouldn't worry about.

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Justice Department tells court it won't defend parts of the health law on pre-existing conditions
BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/justice_department_tells_court_it_wont_defend_parts_of_the_affordable_care
Jun 8, 2018 - The U.S. Justice Department has told a Texas federal court that it won't defend ... with pre-existing conditions and from charging them more money. ... The U.S. Supreme Court had upheld the law's individual mandate in 2012 ...

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In shift, Trump administration backs judge’s ruling that would kill Obamacare
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/25/trump-obamacare-justice-department-1236116
Mar 25, 2019 - "The Department of Justice has determined that the district court's judgment ... that the 5th Circuit's ruling will be appealed to the Supreme Court. ... like its protections for patients with pre-existing conditions, should be struck ...

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https://khn.org/morning-breakout/experts-debunk-trumps-claims-that-he-saved-pre-existing-conditions-coverage/

Experts Debunk Trump’s Claims That He Saved Pre-Existing Conditions Coverage


President Donald Trump defended his administration's efforts to protect health coverage for Americans in response to presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg's ads, but fact checkers and other experts were quick to point out that Trump has gone to great lengths to weaken the health law and its popular provisions throughout his presidency. “That tweet is so far inconsistent with the direction of their policy push,” said Linda Blumberg, a health policy analyst at the Urban Institute. “It’s just astounding to me.”

The Hill: Trump Knocks 'Mini Mike Bloomberg' Over Health Care, 'False Advertising'
President Trump on Monday lashed out at former New York City Mayor and Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Bloomberg, defending his administration's health care record. "Mini Mike Bloomberg is spending a lot of money on False Advertising," Trump tweeted. "I was the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your Healthcare," he continued, adding that he would "always protect your Pre-Existing Conditions, the Dems will not!" (Sullivan, 1/13)

The New York Times: To The Contrary, Trump Has Tried To Weaken Protections For Pre-Existing Conditions
President Trump was not in Washington when the Affordable Care Act established a right to health insurance for Americans with pre-existing health conditions. His first legislative priority as president was a bill that would have repealed key parts of Obamacare and weakened such protections. His Justice Department is arguing in court that the entire law should be overturned. His tweets Monday morning, describing himself as “the person who saved pre-existing conditions,” contradict this record. (Sanger-Katz, 1/13)

The Associated Press Fact Check: No, Trump Didn't Save Preexisting Conditions
Trump's administration has been pressing in court for full repeal of the Obama-era law, including provisions that protect people with preexisting conditions from health insurance discrimination. With “Obamacare” still in place, preexisting conditions continue to be covered by regular individual health insurance plans. Insurers must take all applicants, regardless of medical history, and charge the same standard premiums to healthy people and those who are in poor health, or have a history of medical problems. (Yen, 1/13)

Politico: Trump Attacks Bloomberg On Health Care With Misleading Claim
Under Trump, the Justice Department also dropped its legal defense of Obamacare — a nearly unprecedented move that drove the senior DOJ lawyer on the case to resign in protest — and supported a lawsuit by Republican-governed states to scrap the law. A federal judge in December 2018 agreed with the GOP plaintiffs and ruled that the entire law should be struck down. The Trump administration earlier this month asked the Supreme Court to delay hearing appeals in the case until after the 2020 election. (Forgey and Diamond, 1/13)

The Washington Post Fact Checker: Trump’s Traffic Jam Of False Claims On Preexisting Conditions
Moreover, the Trump administration has issued new rules that promote the use of low-quality short-term plans that were prohibited under the ACA. These plans typically don’t have the same protections for people with existing health conditions, allowing insurance companies to deny coverage or charge higher prices. (A number of states, mainly Democratic-leaning, have acted to prohibit or limit these Trump plans.) (Kessler, 1/13)

Kaiser Health News: Team Trump Says Administration’s Action On Health Care ‘Is Working.’ Is It?
“That tweet is so far inconsistent with the direction of their policy push,” said Linda Blumberg, a health policy analyst at the Urban Institute, a think tank. “It’s just astounding to me.” The administration has attempted to or successfully undermined coverage, argued Blumberg and other policy analysts, pointing to the Affordable Care Act repeal effort, which the president championed and continues to prioritize, along with changes made to the individual marketplace, where people buy insurance. (Luthra, 1/13)

CNN: Fact Check: Trump Falsely Claims To Have 'Saved' Pre-Existing Conditions Protections
The White House defended Trump's actions, saying in a statement: "President Trump has repeatedly stated his commitment to protect individuals with pre-existing conditions and his track record shows that he has consistently done what is necessary to improve care for the vulnerable by opening affordable options for those who were priced out of the market by Obamacare, combating the opioid epidemic, protecting and improving Medicare, enacting Right-to-Try, advancing kidney health, approving more generic drugs than ever before, committing to end HIV/AIDs within 10 years, and much more. (Luhby, 1/13)

MSNBC: Freshman Dem Debunks Trump Claim About Pre-Existing Conditions
Freshman Rep. Lauren Underwood (D-IL) tells Lawrence O’Donnell that President Trump is making “empty promises” about protecting people with pre-existing conditions while promoting legislation to take away health care coverage for millions of Americans. (1/13)
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2531 on: January 15, 2020, 08:35:08 AM »
Page 254: Talking deplorables down off the ledge...

Tenth time asking you.... why would anyone except a wealthy Trump party donor, expecting a return on investing in Trump party, or a white nationalist, vote for Trump?

I'll prod you with an example you could reply with. "Of course everyone should vote for more Trump. Any POTUS who would lie like this, again and again, about an issue as vital as access to affordable healthcare, is too irresistible to pass up the opportunity to keep in the white house. EFF, Jimmy Kimmel's kid, born with a heart condition!"

My best good buddy Tom. Here is an example of the 2nd pre-arranged takedown of Sanders. I remember how CNN employing Donna Brazille in their 2016 sponsored Democrat candidates debate were caught  having some of the questions forwarded to the Hillary campaign in advance of the debate this article is where it was admitted   https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign 

And here we go again. Watch the video below. Another obvious set-up question pre-arranged with Warren's knowledge.  The debate moderator directs it to Sanders like a gotcha question. Watch how the Fraud Warren tries to act her way through the rest of the clip while the moderator shows her own bias through a few small comments. Specifically accuses Sanders of an alleged comment that Warren recently was whining about  (he is accused of saying a woman can't win)  Which he denies but then the moderator comments that he did while Warren tries to win an Oscar with the audience from the Arsenio Hall show supporting her in the background. These are some of the most dishonest women, another example of them not following their own rules    Democrat women are destroying your party and have been for quite a while. They despise the men of their own party more than the opposing party.


Hillary and Warren are to Democrats what McCain and Romney were to Republicans 
 Learn from history instead of learning from what is about to happen.



 






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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2532 on: January 15, 2020, 03:21:02 PM »
    CNN hosts a Pres. Debate and yet again there are rigging charges being leveled from pillar to post. What New? Bernie got "jobbed" by the Dems 4 years ago yet he still bent the knee to Hillary at the Dem Convention. Of course, 2 weeks later Sanders somehow managed to buy his 3rd house. Which means all the Dem's need do is buy this alleged Socialist a 4th House and he will once again go away. Everybody has a price.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2533 on: January 15, 2020, 10:21:08 PM »
My best good buddy Tom. Here is an example of the 2nd pre-arranged takedown of Sanders. I remember how CNN employing Donna Brazille in their 2016 sponsored Democrat candidates debate were caught  having some of the questions forwarded to the Hillary campaign in advance of the debate this article is where it was admitted   https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign 

And here we go again. Watch the video below. Another obvious set-up question pre-arranged with Warren's knowledge.  The debate moderator directs it to Sanders like a gotcha question. Watch how the Fraud Warren tries to act her way through the rest of the clip while the moderator shows her own bias through a few small comments. Specifically accuses Sanders of an alleged comment that Warren recently was whining about  (he is accused of saying a woman can't win)  Which he denies but then the moderator comments that he did while Warren tries to win an Oscar with the audience from the Arsenio Hall show supporting her in the background. These are some of the most dishonest women, another example of them not following their own rules    Democrat women are destroying your party and have been for quite a while. They despise the men of their own party more than the opposing party.


Hillary and Warren are to Democrats what McCain and Romney were to Republicans 
 Learn from history instead of learning from what is about to happen.



 






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Kleinschmidt,

What life event made you become so cynical?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2534 on: January 15, 2020, 10:39:07 PM »
Kleinschmidt,

What life event made you become so cynical?

--  MWT   ;)

Notice how it's just women politicians that he denigrates?  That's the Trump legacy.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2535 on: January 15, 2020, 10:58:55 PM »
Notice how it's just women politicians that he denigrates?  That's the Trump legacy.

    I guess you somehow missed Trump "denigrating",  "Little" Marco Rubio, and "Lyin'" Ted Cruz. 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2536 on: January 16, 2020, 03:15:26 AM »
    CNN hosts a Pres. Debate and yet again there are rigging charges being leveled from pillar to post. What New? Bernie got "jobbed" by the Dems 4 years ago yet he still bent the knee to Hillary at the Dem Convention. Of course, 2 weeks later Sanders somehow managed to buy his 3rd house. Which means all the Dem's need do is buy this alleged Socialist a 4th House and he will once again go away. Everybody has a price.

Royell, you shouldn't worry about CNN. You should worry about Lev Parnas who is spilling the beans and just handed over a treasure trove of evidence to the House exposing Benedict Donald and his corrupt stooges. 

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« Reply #2537 on: January 16, 2020, 03:16:58 AM »
My best good buddy Tom. Here is an example of the 2nd pre-arranged takedown of Sanders. I remember how CNN employing Donna Brazille in their 2016 sponsored Democrat candidates debate were caught  having some of the questions forwarded to the Hillary campaign in advance of the debate this article is where it was admitted   https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign 

And here we go again. Watch the video below. Another obvious set-up question pre-arranged with Warren's knowledge.  The debate moderator directs it to Sanders like a gotcha question. Watch how the Fraud Warren tries to act her way through the rest of the clip while the moderator shows her own bias through a few small comments. Specifically accuses Sanders of an alleged comment that Warren recently was whining about  (he is accused of saying a woman can't win)  Which he denies but then the moderator comments that he did while Warren tries to win an Oscar with the audience from the Arsenio Hall show supporting her in the background. These are some of the most dishonest women, another example of them not following their own rules    Democrat women are destroying your party and have been for quite a while. They despise the men of their own party more than the opposing party.


Hillary and Warren are to Democrats what McCain and Romney were to Republicans 
 Learn from history instead of learning from what is about to happen.



 






Always remember Nancy Pelosi is the National Dingbat
and her adopted daughter  AOC is the National Barmaid


Who cares. Lev Parnas is spilling the beans against your orange fraud.  :)

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #2538 on: January 16, 2020, 03:28:11 AM »
The Ukrainegate Shakedown
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….That same year, Firtash acknowledged to the U.S. ambassador in Ukraine that he got his start in business with the permission of a notorious Russian crime lord, according to a classified State Department cable. Other U.S. cables say Firtash made part of his fortune through sweetheart natural gas deals between Russia and the Ukraine. Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Toensing and diGenova, told NBC News the allegations in the Wicker letter are "false, disparaging and defamatory."….

    "Impeachable offense in there Somewhere..................". You continue your search.  Until then, he's Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

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Why Giuliani Singled Out 2 Ukrainian Oligarchs to Help Look for Dirt
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/25/us/giuliani-ukraine-oligarchs.html

Nov 25, 2019 - Mr. Firtash's relationship to the Trump-allied lawyers — Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova — has led to intense speculation that he is, ...


"Perfect call," as follow up on "Perfect" letter, and John Solomon predicated recall, also in May, of career Department of State ambassador to Ukraine...


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DOJ has still not answered question about Firtash extradition ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-has-still-not-answered-question-about-firtash-extradition-says-n1066521
Oct 15, 2019 - Dmytro Firtash, linked to Paul Manafort and two men who work with Rudolph Giuliani, has not been extradited to the U.S. to face federal bribery ...

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/victoria-toensing-law-firm-distances-itself-from-rudy-giuliani-letter-to-volodymyr-zelensky

Toensing Law Firm Distances Itself From Giuliani Letter to Zelensky
UKRAINE OUTREACH
Betsy Swan  Political Reporter
Published Jan. 14, 2020 6:15PM ET
Former Rudy Giuliani associate Lev Parnas gave congressional impeachment investigators a letter on Giuliani’s law firm stationery asking for a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, according to new documents that the congressional committees released. The letter, from Giuliani and addressed to Zelensky, asks for a May meeting and says Victoria Toensing—a lawyer with deep connections in Washington’s conservative legal community—would participate in the meeting. Mark Corallo, a spokesperson for the law firm that Toensing helms with her husband, told The Daily Beast that no one at the firm had any knowledge of the letter. Corallo said the firm also had no knowledge of Giuliani’s outreach to Zelensky’s administration. It is unclear whether Zelensky himself saw the letter; in a text the committee released, Parnas wrote that the letter was “shared via [Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen] Avakov.”

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https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20200114_-_hpsci_transmittal_letter_to_hjc_-_new_evidence.pdf
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For example, Mr. Parnas’ phone included a screenshot of a previously-undisclosed May 10,
2019, letter from Mr. Giuliani to then-President-elect Zelensky. The one-page letter signed
by Mr. Giuliani states, in part:

Dear President-Elect Zelensky:
I am private counsel to President Donald J. Trump. Just to be precise, I represent him as
a private citizen, not as President of the United States. This is quite common under
American law because the duties and privileges of a President and a private citizen are
not the same. Separate representation is usual process.
[…]
However, I have a more specific request. In my capacity as personal counsel to President
Trump and with his knowledge and consent, I request a meeting with you on this
upcoming Monday, May 13th or Tuesday, May 14th. I will need no more than a half-hour
of your time and I will be accompanied by my colleague Victoria Toensing, a
distinguished American attorney who is very familiar with this matter.


Mr. Parnas texted a copy of the letter to a close aide to then-President-elect Zelensky shortly
after it was drafted.
Mr. Giuliani’s letter makes clear that his trip, which he publicly described at the time as an
effort to “meddle in an investigation,” was undertaken with the knowledge and support of
President Trump.


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https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/14/toensing-washington-post/
VICTORIA TOENSING
CONTRIBUTOR January 14, 2020 9:45 AM ET

Forget “Democracy dies in darkness.” The Washington Post editorial board’s motto is more aptly “Damn the facts. Full speed ahead.” In seeking to protect former Vice President Joe Biden, the editors have employed double standards and ignored established facts.

The Post never accuses lawyers who represent the so-called White House “whistleblower” of getting “dirt” on the president. Significantly, the whistleblower’s complaint failed to allege the president committed any criminal conduct. By contrast, witnesses have provided me with an adequate “factual basis” for investigating the Bidens. Yet, I am maligned as wanting to “dig up dirt” on them.

The Post has also given scant coverage to January 2016 Obama White House meetings with Ukrainian embassy officials who allegedly asked for “dirt” on the Trump campaign. One Ukrainian participant, Andrii Telizhenko, reported it was clear during the meetings that the White House “had an interest in reviving a closed investigation” of Paul Manafort. That request was followed a few weeks later by the “discovery” in Ukraine of a black book of questionable origin alleging payments to Manafort.

The paper has also ignored Ukrainian Ambassador Valeriy Chaly’s written response to questions from John Solomon, whose reporting relayed “DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government” regarding Manafort.

Such are common tactics employed by those with bias: mischaracterize and ignore. Even when confronted with the facts, the Post refuses to issue a full correction.

Another recent leading Post editorial claimed, “Mr. [Rudy] Giuliani dispatched [Lev] Parnas and … Igor Fruman to solicit [my client Dmitry] Firtash’s help in obtaining dirt on Mr. Biden” by “urg[ing] him to hire” my firm, diGenova & Toensing.

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When informed that Giuliani never dispatched those persons to “obtain dirt,” and indeed, did not even know that Firtash had hired the law firm, The Post’s editors refused to retract the allegation. They incredibly responded that its “editorial doesn’t say that Giuliani asked Parnas and Fruman to ask Firtash to hire” the firm.

Their editorial also claimed an affidavit from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was “shown to be false.” Really? Shokin stated in a sworn affidavit submitted to an Austrian court that then-President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko “forced” him out of his position because he “was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into Burisma,” the Ukrainian energy company that paid the unqualified Hunter Biden over $80,000 monthly to be a director.

Shokin averred that Poroshenko told him that Biden was “refusing to release” the $1 billion “promised to Ukraine” unless he was gone. Please resign “for the good of our country,” Poroshenko pleaded.

What was the basis for The Post’s claim that Shokin’s statement was “proven to be false”? Without naming the witness or quoting him or her, the editors responded by citing “sworn testimony to the House Intelligence Committee.”

Not one State Department witness who testified to the committee had firsthand knowledge of Shokin’s conversation with Poroshenko. The editors want us to believe that a person who has no personal knowledge of the situation is more credible than the person who actually experienced the situation.

Shokin’s temporary successor, Yuriy Sevruk, also wrote a memo describing his meeting with Burisma’s legal team, which occurred only days after Shokin’s firing. They apologized for “false information” made by “U.S. representatives” and others about Shokin. They wanted to settle the case. Why would Burisma’s legal team meet with the prosecutor if there were no ongoing investigation? The case was settled in January 2017, long after Shokin’s March 2016 firing.

The only false allegation the editors were “willing to work with” us on was this: “Firtash was the source of a $1 million transfer to the wife of Lev Parnas, who was working closely with Mr. Giuliani on the Biden affair.”

Maybe the willingness stemmed from the fact that The Post had been provided — prior to publishing their editorial — with a statement from Ralph Isenegger, a lawyer for Firtash, that he was the source of the money, which was for a home loan, and that Firtash had no knowledge of it.

Editorial integrity dies in darkness.

Victoria Toensing served as deputy assistant attorney general in the Criminal Division of the U.S. Justice Department from 1984-1988, where she established the department’s Terrorism Unit. She is founding partner of the Washington, D.C. law firm diGenova & Toensing, LLP.

The views and opinions expressed in this commentary are those of the author and do not reflect the official position of The Daily Caller.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/15/lev-parnass-handwritten-notes-about-giulianis-ukraine-push-annotated/

Lev Parnas’s handwritten notes about Giuliani’s Ukraine push, annotated
By Philip Bump  Jan. 15, 2020 at 10:44 a.m. EST
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6. “3) Victoria/Joe retained ... begin media campaign.”
It’s likely that this is a reference to a legal relationship between two lawyers associated with Giuliani — Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova — and Yuri Lutsenko, then the prosecutor general of Ukraine. Lutsenko was looking (and still is looking) to engage the U.S. government in an investigation of what he claims was a broad misappropriation of money by an American company. (The company denies the allegations.)

Giuliani’s proposed meeting with Zelensky in May would have included Toensing. The trip was canceled after the Times reported on Giuliani’s intent to push Zelensky for new investigations.

“No money was ever received, and no legal work was ever performed because the trip was canceled,” a spokesman for Toensing said last year about the relationship with Lutsenko.

The “begin media campaign” is significant, though. Toensing and diGenova also represented Solomon, who, from his perch at The Hill, had been writing about Lutsenko’s various allegations for some time — including allegations targeting Biden and then-Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. In the context of this note, the suggestion is that Toensing, diGenova and Parnas — who also provided translation services to the two lawyers — were looking to being a new media push on behalf of their client.

So.... "Vicky" weighs in on the eve of Lev Parnas's interview tonight. Parnas just said Bill Barr, Joe DiGenova, and Joe's wife Vicky Toensing are joined at the hip, taking direction from John Solomon about how to negotiate with Firtash to obtain dirt on the Bidens in exchange for ending the DOJ's efforts to extradite Firtash  Vicky's bleating, above is presented at Dailycaller, home of another Hannity disinformationist, Chuck Ross.

Rudy just contacted MSNBC to attack Parnas after watching his interview! Fox News has inserted itself by Hannity directing Solomon, Chuck Ross, and Sara Carter disinfo and by Fox News talking heads DiGenova, Toensing, and Mike Flynn's attorney, Sidney Powell, leaping off the screen to insert themselves in the midst of this train wreck. What next, "Fox n Friends" recruited by Trump to staff the White House or the organized crime wave marketed to the cult as "the Trump Campaign"?

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« Reply #2539 on: January 16, 2020, 03:35:16 AM »
i thought Trump claimed he was "fighting corruption." Why have your private attorney, Rudy, doing that, and not official channels?

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Giuliani admits to Daily News he told Ukrainian president he was acting with Trump’s ‘consent’ while pushing for Biden investigation
By CHRIS SOMMERFELDT
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS |
JAN 14, 2020 | 6:44 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-giuliani-ukraine-20200114-em4mj4k6pregrdlvagznmjw2be-story.html

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Rudy Giuliani asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in May to announce dubious investigations of Joe Biden and other Democrats, stressing to the newly-elected leader that he was making the request with the explicit “consent" of President Trump, according to newly unearthed records and Giuliani himself.

The ex-New York mayor made the point in a previously undisclosed May 10 letter to Zelensky that was included in a batch of records from ex-Giuliani associate Lev Parnas released by the House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday night — just one day before the chamber was expected to send the impeachment articles against Trump to the Senate for trial....

....“Of course,” Giuliani told the Daily News in a text message when asked if the letter was about the Bidens and 2016.

He even insisted he was happy the letter was out.

“It is a very helpful letter," Giuliani said. “It proves I was seeking information as a private counsel seeking exculpatory evidence for his client.”....

"Perfect call," in July, claimed Trump. "Very helpful letter," in May, says Rudy, the deer in the headlights in January.

There was no impeachment investigation in May when that letter was written. So what was "exculpatory" in May, as far as any investigation of Rudy's client?

Parnas tossed Trump, Pence, Barr, and Nunes under the bus, tonight. Too bad a cult of personality behaves as if it is immune from the consequences.

This is just the tip of the iceberg after Trump replaced the Department of State with his own, organized crime cabal secretly representing only themselves.
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...Nice little country you have here, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it, if it "had to go through some things...."

Pompeo is playing Nero's fiddle while.....

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/parnas-used-access-to-trumps-world-to-help-push-shadow-ukraine-effort-new-documents-show/2020/01/15/f350dd78-37f1-11ea-bf30-ad313e4ec754_story.html
Parnas used access to Trump’s world to help push shadow Ukraine effort, new documents show

By  Colby Itkowitz,  Paul Sonne and  Tom Hamburger
Jan. 15, 2020 at 9:33 p.m. EST
Documents and text messages released by House Democrats on Wednesday evening show how Lev Parnas, a former associate of Rudolph W. Giuliani, used the extensive entree he had to President Trump’s world to help put in motion Giuliani’s shadow Ukraine campaign.

Hundreds of pages of photos, messages and calendar entries show Parnas enlisting a top official at the pro-Trump super PAC America First Action to assist in promoting media coverage he helped arrange and attending functions with Republican congressmen and Trump family members. A calendar entry released as part of the cache shows Parnas had a scheduled breakfast with Trump in New York on Sept. 26 — after the public revelation of a whistleblower complaint about a call the president had with his Ukrainian counterpart.

The new materials made public by the House Intelligence Committee follow an initial trove released Tuesday night that showed Parnas directly involved with efforts to get the Ukrainian president to announce investigations related to former vice president Joe Biden.....
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