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Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #5120 on: April 01, 2020, 03:34:57 AM »
Trump destroyed by his own words about coronavirus in devastating Washington Post column

President Donald Trump was brutally taken to task for his own words in the COVID-19 crisis in a new Washington Post column.

Columnist Dana Milbank asked readers to imagine Trump giving a “fireside chat” during the crisis like President Franklin D. Roosevelt did in the Great Depression.

“In these dark times, Americans crave the comfort of competent leadership. I have therefore taken the liberty of drafting for Trump a fireside chat for our times — using entirely his own words,” Milbank wrote.

Milbank’s imagined speech from Trump demonstrated the cluelessness the commander-in-chief has displayed during the coronavirus pandemic.

The coronavirus is very much under control in the USA,” the speech began.

“We have it totally under control. I’m not concerned at all. It’s one person coming in from China. We pretty much shut it down. It will all work out well,” the speech continued.

“We’re in great shape. Doesn’t spread widely at all in the United States because of the early actions that myself and my administration took. There’s a chance it won’t spread. It’s something that we have tremendous control over,”  the speech read. “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

“This is a flu. I didn’t know people died from the flu. Here, we’re talking about a much smaller range. It is very mild,” the speech argued. “The tests are all perfect. Anybody that wants a test can get a test. The tests are beautiful. We have a tremendous testing setup.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/trump-destroyed-by-his-own-words-about-coronavirus-in-devastating-washington-post-column/


He Is Scared Right Now’

CNN’s Jim Acosta commenting on the president’s daily briefing on the coronavirus pandemic: “I’ve never seen President Trump like this. He is scared right now.”

He added: “This was a different Donald Trump tonight. I think he gets it.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/31/he-is-scared-right-now/


White House Economists Warned of Pandemic Last Year

White House economists published a study last September that warned a pandemic disease could kill a half million Americans and devastate the economy,” the New York Times reports.

“It went unheeded inside the administration.”

“The existence of that warning undermines administration officials’ contentions in recent weeks that no one could have seen the virus damaging the economy as it has. The study’s lead author, who has since left the White House, now says it would make sense for the administration to effectively shut down most economic activity for two to eight months to slow the virus.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/31/white-house-economists-warned-in-2019-of-pandemic/


Leaked Audio Shows Trump Still In Denial About Virus

CBS News obtained audio of a call Monday between President Trump and rural state governors about coronavirus where Trump says, “I haven’t heard about testing in weeks. We’ve tested more now than any nation in the world. We’ve got these great tests, and we’ll come out with another one tomorrow, that’s almost instantaneous testing. But I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”

That quote was in response to a question from Montana Gov. Steve Bullock (D) who said the availability of testing kits remained a problem.

Also on the same day, Govs. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan (D) and Larry Hogan of Maryland (R) published an op-Edward in the Washington Post asking the federal government for more “test kits, medical supplies and other lifesaving equipment to meet the scope of this pandemic.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/31/leaked-audio-shows-trump-still-in-denial-about-coronavirus/


White House Forecasts Show Many More Deaths

President Trump’s public health advisers project that the coronavirus could kill 100,000 to 240,000 Americans — even with strict social distancing guidelines in place, Axios reports.

Meanwhile, Andy Slavitt reports “numbers floating around the White House are 400,000 and some think that requires optimism.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/31/white-house-forecasts-show-many-more-deaths/


Trump Rejects Special Obamacare Enrollment Period

“The Trump administration has decided against reopening Obamacare enrollment to uninsured Americans during the coronavirus pandemic, defying calls from health insurers and Democrats to create a special sign-up window amid the health crisis,” Politico reports.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/31/trump-rejects-special-obamacare-enrollment-period/

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« Reply #5121 on: April 01, 2020, 04:14:12 AM »
Rick you need to take a breathalyzer.  Now, what were you saying? Trump wouldn't favor red states dumbshit he would favor blue states in an effort to win them over, but the blue states are obviously not easy.
Thanks to Cuomo they are now.  The idiot Governor wanted all the testing in their State labs. Trump said, "ok be careful what you wish for".
and now Cuomo got what he wanted and now made NY the guinea pig.  Gov. Cuomo now, does NOT want everybody tested. He changes his mind more than a woman, just like Rick does, right Rick?

Jim Acosta  has never seen a Prez so scared? That's because Jim has only seen 3 Presidents. Jim lies like his student Rck lies

We need to invent a new category of stupid to accomodate you.... None of the existing categories will do with this level of ignorance and delusion!

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« Reply #5122 on: April 01, 2020, 04:35:19 AM »
Rick you need to take a breathalyzer.  Now, what were you saying? Trump wouldn't favor red states dumbshit he would favor blue states in an effort to win them over, but the blue states are obviously not easy.
Thanks to Cuomo they are now.  The idiot Governor wanted all the testing in their State labs. Trump said, "ok be careful what you wish for".
and now Cuomo got what he wanted and now made NY the guinea pig.  Gov. Cuomo now, does NOT want everybody tested. He changes his mind more than a woman, just like Rick does, right Rick?



Jim Acosta  has never seen a Prez so scared? That's because Jim has only seen 3 Presidents. Jim lies like his student Rck lies

We need to invent a new category of stupid to accomodate you.... None of the existing categories will do with this level of ignorance and delusion!

On it ! Will this do ?

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/leaders-in-the-making/201912/understanding-the-strange-case-donald-j-trump
Understanding "The Strange Case of Donald J. Trump"
A psychological reckoning.
Posted Dec 08, 2019
Dinesh Sharma Ph.D.
...In my books on President Obama and Hillary Clinton, I have wrestled with the question of personality theory at the interface political culture.[1] However, in the case of Donald J. Trump, the 45th president of the U.S., the role of personality-related factors may be even more pronounced than any other political leader we have seen in recent times.

In his new book and a recent article in the Atlantic, Dan McAdams suggests Trump represents "a strange case of narcissism,"[2] in which his supporters are in a "parasocial relationship" with him, almost like a fandom following a celebrity, or groupies tailgating a rock star. He represents an "imaginary" persona or a cult-like figure whose "real" shadow never penetrates the haze of cognitive dissonance in the hearts and minds of his followers. The 37% of his base supporters are symbiotically attached to him, not unlike a virus colonizing the body-politic; he provides the very oxygen to their protean rage in turbulent times, driven by technology, trade and travel, and fear of “the other.”....

“I do not find the clinical categories of the DSM all that useful in explaining how a person has come to be and in making sense of a person’s life, including President Trump. He is much stranger than any diagnostic category can convey, in my opinion,” McAdams replied.

“There is no diagnostic label that captures his unique blend of attributes and orientations,” he explained. “Among the most interesting features of Trump’s inimitable personality are (1) his peculiar form of extraversion-based charisma, (2) his startling lack of an animating life narrative in his own mind to make sense of who he is and how he came to be, and (3) his belief, shared unconsciously by a percentage of his supporters, that he is not ‘a person’he is more than a person, like a superhero, like a primal or mythic force, but less than a person, too, in that he is not held morally accountable in the same way that other persons are. I am not speaking metaphorically.”
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5123 on: April 01, 2020, 04:36:39 AM »
Rick you need to take a breathalyzer.  Now, what were you saying? Trump wouldn't favor red states dumbshit he would favor blue states in an effort to win them over, but the blue states are obviously not easy.
Thanks to Cuomo they are now.  The idiot Governor wanted all the testing in their State labs. Trump said, "ok be careful what you wish for".
and now Cuomo got what he wanted and now made NY the guinea pig.  Gov. Cuomo now, does NOT want everybody tested. He changes his mind more than a woman, just like Rick does, right Rick?



Jim Acosta  has never seen a Prez so scared? That's because Jim has only seen 3 Presidents. Jim lies like his student Rck lies

 :D :D :D

It's always good to have a laugh, even in a time of crisis. Your gaslighting attempt was pathetic.

Even on Twitter, right wingers are melting down, as they are now discovering this isn't a "hoax" and the virus will not "magically go away" on April 1 like Benedict Donald claimed. Guess they know the writing is on the wall, knowing Benedict Donald is going to lose in a landslide, in November after he told them a bunch of pathological lies.

Rachel is a physician at a New York Hospital. Instead of her wearing real protective medical gear like she should be wearing, she was issued a Major League Baseball New York Yankees rain poncho instead that offers no real protection against the coronavirus. Benedict Donald shipped 17.8 tons of our medical supplies and equipment to China and then falsely blamed President Obama for depleting the medical supply stock and attacked doctors like Rachel for "stealing" and "hoarding" medical supplies. Benedict Donald is an pathological liar who is the biggest corrupt failure in American History. This should outrage everybody.         

https://mobile.twitter.com/racheljulie/status/1245114069339852802
 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5124 on: April 01, 2020, 04:53:58 AM »

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html
By Michael D. Shear, Sheri Fink and Noah Weiland
Published March 7, 2020
Updated March 9, 2020

WASHINGTON — After weeks of conflicting signals from the Trump administration about the coronavirus, the government’s top health officials decided late last month that when President Trump returned from a trip to India, they would tell him they had to be more blunt about the dangers of the outbreak.
If he approved, they would level with the public.
But Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, got a day ahead of the plan. At noon on Feb. 25, just as Mr. Trump was boarding Air Force One in New Delhi for his flight home, she told reporters on a conference call that life in the United States was about to change.
“The disruption to everyday life might be severe,” she said. Schools might have to close, conferences could be canceled, businesses might make employees work from home. She had told her own children, she said, to prepare for “significant disruption to our lives.”


The stock market plummeted, cable news blared apocalyptic headlines and by the time Mr. Trump landed at Joint Base Andrews early the next morning, his critics were accusing him of sowing confusion on an issue of life or death.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/trump-backers-coronavirus-conspiracy-117781
Trump backers see a coronavirus conspiracy
CDC official who raised fears turns out to be Rod Rosenstein’s sister, setting off MAGA-world alarms.
By BEN SCHRECKINGER and ALICE MIRANDA OLLSTEIN
02/26/2020 06:32 PM EST
Updated: 02/26/2020 07:11 PM EST
Some supporters of President Donald Trump see a threat bigger than the spread of a highly contagious novel coronavirus: a conspiracy by deep state actors to use the virus against the president.
One key piece of evidence fueling their theory: An official from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention making public statements on the outbreak is the sister of Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general who oversaw the Mueller probe and, according to a disputed report, once discussed removing Trump from office.

Dr. Nancy Messonnier, head of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases — who got a shoutout from her brother for attending his 2017 confirmation hearing — warned Americans in a Tuesday media briefing that an outbreak in the U.S. is inevitable.

Messonnier’s comments got widespread attention, sparking calls for further actions by the administration, which had long struck a more reassuring note. The furor appeared to catch Trump flat-footed while en route back from his summit with the Indian prime minister, during which he had declared the outbreak "very well under control."

The likes of conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and Jim Hoft, publisher of the Gateway Pundit, a conspiratorial, pro-Trump site, have seized on the sibling connection, as have a large number of anonymous Twitter accounts.
“Rod Rosenstein as we all know definitely worked to undermine the Trump administration, which is oddly exactly what his sister is doing by undermining the more logical and calm message the president’s team has issued
on the virus,” conservative pundit Wayne Dupree charged in a Wednesday blog post.

Global financial markets have been sliding for several days over concerns about the fallout from the virus, a trend that threatens Trump’s rosy economic message as well as his political future.
Yet there is no evidence that federal health authorities are overstating the threat of coronavirus to prosecute a political vendetta against Trump, and some conservatives — even as they praised the administration’s response — rushed to defend Messonnier.

The president immediately got on the phone with Alex M. Azar II, his secretary of health and human services. That call scared people, he shouted, referring to Dr. Messonnier’s warnings. Are we at the point that we will have to start closing schools? the president added, alarmed, according to an official who heard about the call.
To health officials, the message needed to change with the outbreak. “The epicenter was shifting” as the number of new cases outside China surpassed those inside, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the principal deputy director of the C.D.C. “The issue of what this might mean to us became more important.”
From the beginning, the Trump administration’s attempts to forestall an outbreak of a virus now spreading rapidly across the globe was marked by a raging internal debate about how far to go in telling Americans the truth. Even as the government’s scientists and leading health experts raised the alarm early and pushed for aggressive action, they faced resistance and doubt at the White House — especially from the president — about spooking financial markets and inciting panic.
“It’s going to all work out,” Mr. Trump said as recently as Thursday night. “Everybody has to be calm. It’s going to work out.”

Health experts say that telling people to remain calm is an effective message in an epidemic, and it is appropriate that it come from the president. Clear, honest communication is also crucial, and the United States has at times criticized China and other governments for being less than transparent.
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5125 on: April 01, 2020, 06:40:28 AM »
Cornered rat, frantically deflecting blame daily, wherever he expects he can project it! The daily theme, anybody and everybody is responsible, except him. He's merely been their ventriloquist dummy, presenting "their" messaging, concerns, and objections.

After he returned from soaking up praise and attention in India and tamped down the CDC medical expert who informed Americans,:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html
By Michael D. Shear, Sheri Fink and Noah Weiland
Published March 7, 2020
Updated March 9, 2020


....But Dr. Nancy Messonnier,
the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, got a day ahead of the plan. At noon on Feb. 25, just as Mr. Trump was boarding Air Force One in New Delhi for his flight home, she told reporters on a conference call that life in the United States was about to change.
“The disruption to everyday life might be severe,” she said. Schools might have to close, conferences could be canceled, businesses might make employees work from home. She had told her own children, she said, to prepare for “significant disruption to our lives.”....

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/26/trump-backers-coronavirus-conspiracy-117781
Trump backers see a coronavirus conspiracy
CDC official who raised fears turns out to be Rod Rosenstein’s sister, setting off MAGA-world alarms.
By BEN SCHRECKINGER and ALICE MIRANDA OLLSTEIN
02/26/2020 06:32 PM EST
Updated: 02/26/2020 07:11 PM EST
....Dr. Nancy Messonnier, head of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases .....
Some supporters of President Donald Trump see a threat bigger than the spread of a highly contagious novel coronavirus: a conspiracy by deep state actors to use the virus against the president.
One key piece of evidence fueling their theory: An official from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention making public statements on the outbreak is the sister of Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general who oversaw the Mueller probe and, according to a disputed report, once discussed removing Trump from office.....

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-cdc.html
Trump Names Mike Pence to Lead Coronavirus Response
By Michael D. Shear, Noah Weiland and Katie Rogers
Published Feb. 26, 2020  Updated Feb. 27, 2020

Several top health care experts at the news conference echoed Mr. Trump’s optimism but also offered a more sober assessment of the future risks. Dr. Anne Schuchat, the principal deputy director of the C.D.C., warned Americans that there would be more infections.
“Our aggressive containment strategy here in the United States has been working and is responsible for the low levels of cases that we have so far. However, we do expect more cases,” she said as the president stood behind her. “The trajectory of what we’re looking at over the weeks and months ahead is very uncertain.”
About a half-hour later, Mr. Trump contradicted Dr. Schuchat’s assessment, telling reporters that “I don’t think it’s inevitable.” He left the door open to travel restrictions beyond China, to other hard-hit countries like South Korea and Italy, and said his early decision to stop flights from China had held the virus at bay.
But the C.D.C. confirmed minutes later that a new infection in California was contracted by a person who did not appear to have traveled to countries hard hit by the virus or been exposed to a known coronavirus patient. That raised the prospect that the virus was spreading through unknown means.

Health experts have questioned the C.D.C.’s decision to limit testing for the virus to people who have traveled in China or have come into contact with someone who has. Other countries are testing more broadly for the coronavirus among people from countries where outbreaks have been growing, including Italy, Iran and South Korea.

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Issued on: February 27, 2020. Share: menu All News. James S. Brady Press Briefing Room February 26, 2020 ... Now, you treat this like a flu. We were — in fact, ...


THE PRESIDENT: …..We’re bringing in a specialist — a very highly regarded specialist — tomorrow, who works, actually, at the State Department.  Very, very tremendously talented in doing this.
I want you to understand something that shocked me when I saw it that — and I spoke with Dr. Fauci on this, and I was really amazed, and I think most people are amazed to hear it: The flu, in our country, kills from 25,000 people to 69,000 people a year.  That was shocking to me.
And, so far, if you look at what we have with the 15 people and their recovery, one is — one is pretty sick but hopefully will recover, but the others are in great shape.  But think of that: 25,000 to 69,000.
Over the last 10 years, we’ve lost 360,000.  These are people that have died from the flu — from what we call the flu.  “Hey, did you get your flu shot?”  And that’s something.....

…...Q    What is your response to Speaker Pelosi who said earlier today, “You don’t know what you’re talking about,” about the coronavirus?  I’m also wondering if you want to address critics who say you can’t be trusted about what your administration is saying?

THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, sure.  Sure.  I think Speaker Pelosi is incompetent.  She lost the Congress once.  I think she’s going to lose it again.  She lifted my poll numbers up 10 points.  I never thought that I would see that so quickly and so easily.
I’m leading everybody.  We’re doing great.  I don’t want to do it that way.  It’s almost unfair if you think about it.  But I think she’s incompetent, and I think she’s not thinking about the country.  And instead of making a statement like that, where I’ve been beating her routinely at everything — instead of making a statement like that, she should be saying we have to work together, because we have a big problem, potentially.  And maybe it’s going to be a very little problem.  I hope that it’s going to be a very little problem.  But we have to work together.
Instead, she wants to do that — same thing with Cryin’ Chuck Schumer.  He goes out and he says, “The President only asked for two and a half billion dollars.  He should have eight and a half.”  This is the first time I’ve ever been told that we should take more.  Usually, it’s we have to take less.
And we should be working together.  He shouldn’t be making statements like that, because it’s so bad for the country.  And Nancy Pelosi — I mean, she should go back to her district and clean it up, because it’s the number one — if you look at percentage down, that was one of the finest in the world, and now you look at what’s happening.
And I’m just saying, we should all be working together. She’s trying to create a panic, and there’s no reason to panic because we have done so good.  These professionals behind me and over here, and over there, and back here, and in some conference rooms — I just left a group of 45 people that are the most talented people in the world.  Parts of the world are asking us, in a very nice way, can they partake and help them.
So Nancy Pelosi shouldn’t — and she knows it’s not true.  She knows — all — all they’re trying to do is get a political advantage.  This isn’t about political advantage.  We’re all trying to do the right thing.  They shouldn’t be saying, “This is terrible.  President Trump isn’t asking for enough money.”  How stupid a thing to say.  If they want to give us more money, that’s okay; we’ll take more money.  Some Republicans think we should have more money too.  That’s okay.  We’ll take more money.
But they shouldn’t demean the people that are on the stage, who are the finest in the world.  They’re not demeaning me.  They’re demeaning the greatest healthcare professionals in the world and people that do exactly what we’re talking about.....

…...This will end.  This will end.  You look at flu season.  I said 26,000 people?  I’ve never heard of a number like that.  Twenty-six thousand people going up to sixty-nine thousand people, Doctor — you told me before.  Sixty-nine thousand people die every year — from 26 [thousand] to 69 [thousand] — every year from the flu.  Now, think of that.  It’s incredible.
So far, the results of all of this that everybody is reading about — and part of the thing is you want to keep it the way it is.  You don’t want to see panic because there’s no reason to be panicked about it.
But when I mentioned the flu, I said — actually, I asked the various doctors.  I said, “Is this just like flu?”  Because people die from the flu.  And this is very unusual.  And it is a little bit different, but in some ways it’s easier and in some ways it’s a little bit tougher.

But we have it so well under control.  I mean, we really have done a very good job.
Go ahead.
Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Thank you, Mr. President.  You mentioned the stock market earlier.  To go back to that: To be clear, the Dow Jones dropped more than 2,000 points this week.  Are you suggesting that that was overblown?  Are financial markets overreacting here?
…….

…..Q    So far, your administration is only testing less than 500 people.  And health officials are questioning whether that’s enough, comparing to other countries who have tested more than tens of thousands of people.  Are you planning to test more people?
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, we’re testing everybody that we need to test.  And we’re finding very little problem.  Very little problem.
Now, you treat this like a flu.  We were — in fact, I might ask one of the doctors to come up and explain it.  You want to wash your hands a lot.  You want to stay — if you’re not feeling well, if you feel you have a flu, stay inside, sort of quarantine yourself.  Don’t go outside.

But there are certain steps that you can take that won’t even be necessary.  You know, in many cases, when you catch this, it’s very light; you don’t even know there’s a problem.  Sometimes they just get the sniffles, sometimes they just get something where they’re not feeling quite right.  And sometimes they feel really bad.
But that’s a little bit like the flu.  It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for.  And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner.
Yeah, go ahead.
…....
....Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  Tonight, you’re minimizing the risk of danger of the virus.  Are you telling the Americans, except for the ones who are sick, not to change any of their behaviors?
THE PRESIDENT:  No, I think you have to always — look, I do it a lot anyway, as you’ve probably heard.  Wash your hands, stay clean.  (Laughter.)  You don’t have to necessarily grab every handrail unless you have to.  You know, you do certain things that you do when you have the flu.
I mean, view this the same as the flu.  When somebody sneezes — I mean, I try and bail out as much as possible when they’re sneezing.  I had a man come up to me a week ago.  I hadn’t seen him in a long time, and I said, “How you doing?”  He said, “Fine.  Fine.”  And he — he hugs me, kiss.  I said, “Are you well?”  He says, “No.”  (Laughter.)  He said, “I have the worst fever and the worst flu.”  And he’s hugging and kissing me.  So I said, “Excuse me.”  I went and I started washing my hands.  (Laughter.)  So you have to do that.
You know, this is — I really think, Doctor, you ought to treat this like you treat the flu, right?  And, you know, it’s going to be — it’s going to be (inaudible).

......THE PRESIDENT:  They listened to a lot of what I had to say.  And they —
Q    I did.  So how does that square with what you’re doing right now?
THE PRESIDENT:  They listened to a lot.  Well, because this is a much different problem than Ebola.  Ebola, you disintegrated, especially at the beginning.  They’ve made a lot of progress now on Ebola.  But with Ebola — we were talking about it before — you disintegrated.  If you got Ebola, that was it.
This one is different.  Much different.  This is a flu.  This is like a flu.  And this is a much different situation than Ebola.
But — and we’re working on Ebola right now, by the way.  We’re working on certain areas of the Congo.  The Congo has Ebola and caused largely by the fact that they have war and people can’t get there.  We can now treat Ebola.  In that — at that time, it was infectious and you couldn’t treat it.  Nobody knew anything about it.  Nobody had ever heard of anything like this.  So it’s a much different situation.
Q    Mr. President, the rate of mortality —

Q    I think it was to me.  Thank you.  Mr. President, let me ask you this —
THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah, go ahead.
Q    In just the course of the last couple of minutes, you have disputed some of what the officials that are working in your administration behind you have said about the risk of coronavirus and its spread.  Do you trust your health officials to give you good information?
THE PRESIDENT:  Oh, sure.
........
....Q    Mr. President, you talked about the flu and then in comparison to the coronavirus.  The flu has a fatality ratio of about 0.1 percent.
THE PRESIDENT:  Correct.
Q    This has a fatality ratio somewhere between 2 and 3 percent.  Given that and the fact —
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, we think.  We think.  We don’t know exactly what it is.
Q    Based on the numbers so far —
THE PRESIDENT:  And the flu is higher than that.  The flu is much higher than that.
Q    There’s more people who get the flu, but this is spreading — or is going to spread, maybe, within communities.  That’s the expectation.
THE PRESIDENT:  It may.  It may.
Q    Does that — does that worry you?  Because —
THE PRESIDENT:  No.
Q    — that seems to be what worries the American people.
THE PRESIDENT:  No, because we’re ready for it.  It is what it is.  We’re ready for it.  We’re really prepared.  We have — as I said, we’ve had — we have the greatest
people in the world.  We’re very ready for it.  We hope it doesn’t spread.  There’s a chance that it won’t spread too, and there’s a chance that it will, and then it’s a question of at what level.
So far, we’ve done a great job.  When you have 15 people, with this whole world coming into the United States, and the 15 people are either better or close to being better, that’s pretty good.
All right, we’ll do — we’ll do one more.  Go ahead.
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VS on Tuesday, March 31 :

(Trump has known about this report for the past two weeks, but postures as if his drive to "pack the churches on Easter, April, 12" was urged while he was unaware of:

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/podcasts/coronavirus-trump-united-states.html
President Trump and leading health officials are now recommending closing more schools, avoiding groups of more than 10, discretionary travel, bars and restaurants.
March 17, 2020
Doug Mills/The New York Times
Background reading:
A report released by an epidemic modeling group at Imperial College London warned that without action by the government and individuals to slow the spread of coronavirus, 2.2 million people in the United States could die.
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Trump Warns Coronavirus Is ‘Not the Flu’ at Briefing, Weeks After Comparing the Two

By Zachary Petrizzo Mar 31st, 2020, 7:56 pm
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President Donald Trump shifted tone at his coronavirus press conference on Tuesday evening in The White House briefing room, hammering home that the coronavirus is “not the flu” – while over a month ago in late February, the president was billing COVID-19 as just “like a flu.”
Trump also shared a story that one of his friends was in a coma after contracting COVID-19.
Trump began, “I think we’re doing better than that. I think we have to see, but I think we’re doing better than that because, as John said, that would be a lot of lives taking place over a relatively short period of time.”
“But think of what would have happened if we didn’t do anything. I mean, I’ve had many friends, business people, people with great actually common sense, they said why don’t we ride it out. A lot of people have thought about it. Ride it out. Don’t do anything. Just ride it out and think of it as the flu.”
“But it’s not the flu. It’s vicious,” Trump added.
Trump then told a story about one of his friends who’s in a coma after contracting the coronavirus.
“When you send a friend to the hospital and you call up to find out how is he doing, it happened to me, where goes to the hospital, he says goodbye, sort of a tough guy. A little older, a little heavier than he’d like to be, frankly, and you call up the next day how is he doing, and he is in a coma? This is not the flu,” Trump continued.
“We would see the same things had we done nothing. For a long while, people were asking that question. I was asking it also. A lot of people were saying well, let’s just ride it out. This is not to be ridden out because then you would be looking at potentially 2.2 million people or more. 2.2 million people in a relatively short period of time.”
CNN’s Daniel Dale highlighted on Twitter that Trump as, of February 26, touted that the coronavirus was just like the flu.
“This is a flu. This is like a flu,” Trump stated over a month ago, “I mean, view this the same as the flu.”
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He also tweeted this comparison earlier this month:

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Donald J. Trump

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So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!

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https://www.c-span.org/video/?470841-1/white-house-warns-upcoming-painful-weeks




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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #5126 on: April 01, 2020, 05:36:23 PM »
"We expect up to 100,000 to 200,000 deaths" says the Orangatrump. "We are doing great job."

Only in his tiny little brain.


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« Reply #5127 on: April 01, 2020, 06:05:00 PM »
   Picked up a couple missionaries at the airport over the weekend. We said a prayer for some of You. Know that in spite of your current state, there are those that STILL CARE about You!
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« Reply #5128 on: April 01, 2020, 06:10:47 PM »
So much hate in this thread.

Trump continues to divide us.

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« Reply #5129 on: April 01, 2020, 07:20:58 PM »
So much hate in this thread.

Trump continues to divide us.

   Stop with the Blame Game. All it does is fan the flames. We ALL need to be pulling on the same end of the same rope.

 

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