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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #1100 on: December 12, 2019, 01:15:00 AM »
Lets look through some of your lengthy arguments to see what threads of truth you are backing up!  Quoting VanityFair, emptywheeler, Wapo, NYT and whatever other politically biased tabloids you can find does nothing to put forward your argument except dig the canyon deeper.   Reveal the real evidence out in your examples that these organizations are posting as facts.   They rely heavily on their use of symantecs in order to put forward biased unsubstantiated theories.  Let me help you with the emptywheeler for one as an example as you quoted it in your post:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/12/10/with-release-of-doj-ig-fisa-report-democrats-should-pause-on-impeachment/
What did the article say?  Let me point out the bias and pick through it for you.  On the cover, the narrative looks really good if you are an unquestioning/unswayable Democrat who does not want to look at or have the truth revealed to them.

"...The Mueller Report has provided abundant evidence not only that Paul Manafort and Roger Stone (at a minimum) were willing to “collude” in the Russian hack-and-leak, but that they both took affirmative efforts to prevent Mueller from finding out whether they succeeded in doing so. Trump was a key player in that effort to obstruct the investigation. So the investigation was warranted, fairly predicated, and produced results that confirmed Trump’s people wanted to conspire with the Russian operation, whether or not they succeeded..."

"The Mueller Report has provided abundant evidence"....so why didn't they charge Roger Stone and Paul Manafort with those crimes if there was abundant evidence?  What did they charge Paul Manafort with instead?  When they couldn't find any link to so called "Russian Collusion", they charged Manafort with unrelated charges.  They sure established a link there!  Yup!
https://www.google.ca/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNR2SzAsvp_shlRHKQaL3xyrWces5A%3A1576073670590&source=hp&ei=xvnwXbb6IO7P5gK9ho2IAw&q=what+was+paul+manafort+charged+with&oq=what+was+paul+manafort+charged+with&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1007.7789..8054...3.0..0.174.4331.0j37......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j35i39j0i67j0i3j0i22i30j0i333.6wD8nDHeTTw&ved=0ahUKEwi29Zb6463mAhXup1kKHT1DAzEQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

"...Manafort was charged with various financial crimes including tax evasion, bank fraud, and money laundering..." It sure looks like Russian collusion to me.  Oh! Yes.  He loves Putin and that is what they indicted him for!

Look at Stone - same thing!  Looks like the Wheeler uses symantecs and makes points not based on fact, but uses them to state a political opinion which goes hand in hand with injustice and the Democratic lynching process!  The wheeler continues wheeling! 
https://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-roger-stone-why-is-fbi-investigating-him-2017-3
"...In January 2019, Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted him with one count of obstruction, five counts of false statements, and one count of witness tampering..."   They have to convict on petty crimes.   Looks like he was talking to Putin as well!   Yes they convicted him too of high treason and misdemeanors related to Putin!  LOL!  LOL! LOL!  If he did talk to Assange, what was wrong with that?   Can't you go on a fact finding mission to discover things about your opponent?   Who doesn't try to find dirt on their political opponent?  Is that wrong?  Rather than looking at the substance of the emails and what damage comes out them, it is more important to protect the perpetrators of the emails!   IT is pretty bad when you can switch your argument from the substance of those leaks which were true and blame those that released them.    It would be fair game if those emails were "doctored" by the Russians and then released to make it look like they were true.  However, the revelations of what those emails said has never come into question.  It is a violation to have the truth come out I guess!

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https://www.lawfareblog.com/bill-barrs-very-strange-memo-obstruction-justice
Bill Barr’s Very Strange Memo on Obstruction of Justice
By Mikhaila Fogel, Benjamin Wittes Thursday, December 20, 2018, 7:04 PM

...The memo on obstruction of justice by Bill Barr, the once and future attorney general, is a bizarre document—particularly so for a man who would supervise the investigation it criticizes.

As the Wall Street Journal first reported, Barr, whom the president has nominated to succeed Jeff Sessions as attorney general, sent the unsolicited memo—dated June 8, 2018—to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to offer his view of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible obstruction of justice by the president. The document elicited questions over whether Barr would need to recuse himself from overseeing the investigation as attorney general, along with outrage from congressional Democrats: both Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Mark Warner, the ranking member on the Senate intelligence committee, have demanded that Trump withdraw Barr’s nomination. Sen. Dianne Feinstein of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary described the memo as “troubling.”

But the legal quality of the memo itself is a different question. Over at Just Security, Marty Lederman has what he describes as a “first take” on Barr’s memo, which is to say a detailed critique of it on both constitutional and statutory grounds. On National Review’s website, by contrast, Andrew McCarthy declares the memo a “commendable piece of lawyering” and “exactly what we need and should want in an attorney general of the United States.”

Whatever Barr’s memo is, it is not that. Because whether one agrees with his view of the law (as does McCarthy) or recoils at it (as does Lederman), one thing attorneys general of the United States should certainly not do is make up facts. And ironically for a memo laying out the argument that Bob Mueller has made up a crime to investigate, the document is based entirely on made-up facts. Lederman mentions this point at the outset of his analysis:...
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About 800 ex-prosecutors say Trump would be charged with obstruction if he wasn't president
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/hundreds-of-ex-prosecutors-say-trump-would-be-charged-with-obstruction-if-he-werent-president
May 6, 2019, 3:32 pm CDT ... Among those signing the statement are former U.S. Attorney William Weld, who is ... Mueller didn't make any conclusions on obstruction. ... an opinion by the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel that an indictment of a sitting ... Updated May 8 at 3:47 p.m. to reflect the updated number of signatures.
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Hilary Clinton bought and paid for the Steele Dossier through Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on her political campaign rival (Trump) and nothing is said and no action taken in that case 3 1/2 years ago.  Its all good!  It is first coming to light in a true bleaching process called the Horowitz report and will later continue with Durham and Barr.   Until now, it was well buried and only Republicans were "willing" to go against the grain and point out the FBI involvement in the whole matter.
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Horowitz says FBI behavior in Trump-Russia investigation “not routine”

3:33 p.m.: When asked by Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham about the behavior uncovered by his investigation, the inspector general said, "It certainly better not be routine, and I don't know any reason to think it is."

The Justice Department watchdog described the actions of some FBI officials as "pretty bad," but he disagreed with the Republican chairman that the report represented a "grotesque abuse of power" by FBI and Justice Department officials.

"We did not say that in the report. We did not reach a conclusion like that, so I would not agree with that," Horowitz said. -- Melissa Quinn
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Ultimately Bruce Ohr's contacts with Christopher Steele became a problem with they got reported on by the rightwing press.
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I applauded Bruce Ohr's OpSec yesterday (for refusing to stick a thumb drive into his work computer). But he talked w/Christopher Steele abt Oleg Deripaska and the dossier investigation over Skype. And Simpson over email shared w/Nellie.
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Then Ohr makes a point the dossier adherents don't ever concede: That even Steele could (and likely did) get hoodwinked by Russian sources.
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The Republicans whose leaks about Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, and Bruce Ohr have all been proven false want you to know that someone misrepresented what a witness said.
Maggie Haberman
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Republicans on the Oversight committee, in internal memo, said Cummings misconstrued what Lowell said at briefing
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Reupping, bc it still is one of the most alarming things abt John Ratcliffe. In questioning Bruce Ohr, DOJ's expert on RU organized crime, he suggested it was improper for Ohr to get and pass on info on RU organized crime. That's who Trump wants at DNI.
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The Unremarkable Bruce Ohr 302s
https://t.co/6rbY5lLggn?amp=1

The frothy right won't tell you that 4 of these were to vet the dossier, and Ohr was reporting back details for the FBI.
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More Bruce and Nellie Ohr corruption Judicial Watch has bravely exposed.

A ... O ... L ?!?!?
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Here's some of the breathtaking corruption Judicial Watch has caught Bruce and Nellie Ohr engaged in.
https://t.co/cRb4FPkAfQ?amp=1
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See if you can spot the dishonesty in this Chuck Ross special:

1) Nellie Ohr was hired to do research when Paul Singer was footing the bill.

2) Her research makes it clear her work was separate from Christopher Steele's.
https://t.co/6eOKMVEcb6?amp=1
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Note the Bruce Ohr 302s end on May 10, 2017.

https://t.co/xTuMVxi4Jd?amp=1

Chris Steele was mid-panic that his main source needed to be exfilled.
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John Solomon, Byron York, Kim Strassel, Sara Carter, Mollie Hemingway,  Chuck Ross, Catherine Herridge, every single fucking one of the conspiracy theorists bitched bc Bruce Ohr briefed Bruce Swartz abt RU organized crime.

Now he's literally part of a conspiracy.

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Hannity is far more of a fact witness on issues core to the impeachment inquiry than Hunter Biden, Chalupa, or Nellie Ohr.

So why isn't he willing to defend the President under oath?...
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Stewart falsely states Ohr helped create Steele dossier. That's a lie.
  How many of those original FBI co-conspirators are currently still working for the FBI?   I can go through a list if you want.   It looks like a fair process to me!   To cover her tracks, she "bleach bit" hard drives and destroyed her devices and those in her campaign.   The reality was much money was brought into the Clinton Foundation during her position as Secretary of State and she had to cover it up as it really was a very corrupt act by a government official to undertake.   She even left herself exposed to so called Russian hacking (or maybe Seth Rich did it?) by using an unauthorized server in her house.  You got to be kidding!  Dig the sliver out of someone else's eye while you have a plank stuck in your own.  What a sham is all I can say and you guys are so gullible to not research or look into the facts of the matter?  So no one is concerned with the truth of what the emails said and how it tied the corruption back to the Clinton Foundation?  You got to be kidding me!  No one is concerned......?

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Page 8: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2019-10-17%20State%20Dept.%20to%20CEG%20-%20Classified%20Emails.pdf


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Here's Why Republicans Stopped Talking About a Uranium One
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/heres-why-republicans-stopped-talking-about-a-uranium-one-whistleblower/
Mar 8, 2018 - Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, isn't talking about that Uranium One whistleblower anymore. ... decided against using Campbell as a witness against Mikerin after ... Campbell's new claims came after he hired Victoria Toensing, ...

Grassley Seeks Information from FBI Informant in Uranium ...
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/grassley-seeks-information-fbi-informant-uranium-one-probe
Oct 19, 2017 - Grassley Seeks Information from FBI Informant in Uranium One Probe. Oct 19 ... Witnesses who want to talk to Congress should not be gagged and threatened with prosecution for talking. If that has ... Ms. Victoria Toensing.

3rd point made by Wheeler, Trump was the "key player" in this whole process of obstruction.   Hilary didn't obstruct or at least no one was or is willing to call her on it for what she did with evidence tampering?  Oh okay, lets impeach him as he has told Manafort and Stone not to expose that great relationship he has had and still has with Putin.  Didn't he add sanctions against Russia?  Mueller goes after Trump's lawyer Cohen and forces him into a plea deal.  What was he charged with?
"...Cohen, 52, pleaded guilty last year to making false statements to Congress about a plan to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, to financial crimes, and to campaign finance law violations..."   What was the campaign finance law broken?   Cohen paid off 2 women who alleged that they had sex with Trump.  That sort of thing is going on in political circles all the time and nothing ever comes of it.   That is resorting to dirty politics.   Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards personally paid out over a million dollars under similar circumstances of sexual wrongdoing and the Department of Justice eventually dropped the case.   Looks like these girls were pretty easy on Trump's wallet!

So, in summary, it is okay to shovel under the carpet all the damning emails coming out of an illegal server from someone who took an oath of office to serve and protect national secrets.    It is not okay to pay off some girls who seize an opportunity to make some money off of you and spoil your campaign in that manner.  Just an accusation in this day and age is enough.  You don't need facts.  Kavanaugh was an example where the dirt comes forward almost 40 years later.  That is real honest politics too!  Let us just ignore the corruption of Hilary Clinton and what was revealed in her dirty emails and why she had to destroy all the evidence mounting against her.   Biden and his Quid Pro Quo in the Ukraine fair (it's on tape!) is okay too and Trump should not be looking at that corruption!  You shouldn't be looking into the corruption of your campaign rivals!  Don't you dare investigate that - "you are a damn liar" he says in defense during his struggling campaign.  The truth of his corruption and his family's corruption hurts!  What the heck was Hilary Clinton thinking when she came up with the Steele Dossier and used the FBI to spy on an opponent's campaign and then subsequently turn it into an impeachment witch hunt to overthrow a duly elected president for the past 3 years?

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Allan, you have no proof Hillary or her campaign were even witting, let alone "hands on," about what Steele was doing as far as researching and compiling components of "the dossier," or even his involvement before journalists reported (making the details, "open sourced") on his relationship with Simpson's Fusion GPS.
Now it is public info Steele was a friend of Ivanka T. Kushner. I write this with confidence because the "outfit" "suing" the Clinton campaign and DNC related to your suspicion appears to be an extension of this White House.: https://twitter.com/coolidgereagan?lang=en
The only interest in the lawsuit is from those expected to be interested... search term: "Coolidge Reagan Foundation" dossier

 .... the Wikipedia, Steele Dossier "talk page," is your friend...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trump–Russia_dossier/Archive_17#Awareness_of_Clinton_campaign_and_Steele

....And here's another RS: AP News Wire. It's always better to get the article right. Atsme Talk 📧 16:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Please cite language from the sources showing Clinton/DNC were aware. soibangla (talk) 18:02, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Atsme, please answer Soibangla's request. Your AP News Wire source is actually a reprint of a Washington Times article, IOW an unreliable source, which even relies on an even more unreliable source, the Daily Caller. Be careful with such sources. That explains its very partisan tone.
Which words in that source address the questions in this thread? (I haven't read the other source yet. The chickens are making a rucus, so I need to figure out what's happening with them.) -- BullRangifer (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Okay, no danger with the chickens. I see that the WaPo source is one of those we already use to show they did NOT know. I thought it was a new source. -- BullRangifer (talk) 16:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Atsme, would you care to respond or would you prefer to strike your assertions? soibangla (talk) 18:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)....
if you sincerely seek an explanation of why the article reads this way.:

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In April 2016, an attorney for Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump, while The Free Beacon stopped its backing in May of 2016.[3] In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[10][11]

Sorry Tommy's.  I disagree with your presentation of things as evidence.   You have way too many fingers pointing back at your argument than you have with your single finger pointing forward!
 Your boy Nadler can't even keep from falling asleep at times.  He is good at reading a preemptive and rehearsed script,making sure that the impeachment process is run in a biased fashion as possible and can only conclude in one direction!   Almost everything he says is scripted and placed before him to read!  He is not on a fact finding mission as the conclusion to impeach has been made 3 years ago!
https://www.youtube DOTcom/watch?v=9HgX_BWou-I

I have a high opinion of emptywheel because her reporting and analysis are usually opposite what Trump and Fox News - dailycaller are "reporting," because mostly it turns out to be "Putin pleasing," BS and, in the fullness of time, emptywheel is seldom proved wrong, but admits it when it happens. She warned that Mike Flynn was making a grave error dismissing his defense attorneys and hiring Fox News talking head, Sidney Powell to represent him in the pre-sentencing/sentencing phases of his court case.

She has also been correct, so far, about what IG Horowitz would determine and report, and about Trump ordered William Barr-John Durham  investigation of investigators. She was correct about the level of actual offense of Hillary's email server.

Allan, you seem to embrace what ends up being disproven and dismiss what is more reasonable....accurate. Maybe you are too invested in a particular outcome? I won't be disappointed if Oswald is someday proven to have acted alone or if democrats in congress are proven to have "treated Trump unfairly."
I don't want to be observed pushing unreasonable claims or opinions, unreasonable because verifiable facts contradict what I've associated my name with.
Jim DiEugenio accused me of "falling for" author Donald Carpenter. Jim resorted to that because he could not counter my research related to Clay Shaw.
Jim made it seem I was parroting the line of a Max Holland protege. Jim smeared me but did not lie about what I was presenting. How grateful should I be?
Recognizing I make myself a target because I criticize anyone I think is misleading readers, I try to make an extra effort to support whatever I post.

If Fox N Friends accumulated a track record of accuracy, I would watch their TV show and cite them as a supporting source!
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #1101 on: December 12, 2019, 03:50:18 AM »

    As usual, Far TOO LONG.

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« Reply #1102 on: December 12, 2019, 04:10:06 AM »
      The individuals you mention above were collateral damage. The Primary TARGET was Trump whether directly via Rosenstein wearing a wire, Comey trying to trap Trump into admitting any portion of the Steele Dosssier "Might" be true, or by Breaking/Pressuring those around Trump into saying whatever they wanted them to say. These tactics are right out of the height of Nazi Germany. This "investigation" has people rotting in jail and others having their lives/families totally Wrecked. Before leaving office, I expect Trump to issue several Pardons. Yeah, those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome will once again be howling at the Moon, but so what?

    As usual, Far TOO LONG.

I cannot match the economy of your scholarly "eloquence" !

Why not share your talent with your boss?
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #1103 on: December 12, 2019, 05:01:38 AM »
    As usual, Far TOO LONG.

I agree.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #1104 on: December 12, 2019, 05:16:42 AM »
    As usual, Far TOO LONG.

People who watch Fox Snooze have short attention spans.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1105 on: December 12, 2019, 05:45:31 AM »
   "Expecting" a reaction and "Condoning" a reaction are entirely different. What you have posted above Condones these actions. Involving Minors in your "reaction" Mandates Prohibitive corrective measures be employed. This is ALL about Pure Blind Hatred.

There you go again, playing the victim once more....

Anybody who disagrees with you is unpatriotic, hates their country, everybody in it and of course the President, right? Pathetic!

Just how many times can you step on people's toes, insult and ridicule them, lie to them and support criminal behavior by those you blindly support, before people are allowed to react?

You behave like a high school bully, who tries to intimidate others with a big mouth but runs to mommy as soon as somebody stands up to him.
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« Reply #1106 on: December 12, 2019, 07:14:33 AM »
People who watch Fox Snooze have short attention spans.

Iacoletti,

I don't watch Fox News, but like you are all of the time, I start seeing blobs when Tom "Beautiful Mind" Scully tacks together an "associative thoughts and intuitions" kind of post that's three creaking (rhymes with freaking) miles long.

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« Reply #1107 on: December 12, 2019, 09:22:45 AM »
Iacoletti,

I don't watch Fox News, but like you are all of the time, I start seeing blobs when Tom "Beautiful Mind" Scully tacks together an "associative thoughts and intuitions" kind of post that's three creaking (rhymes with freaking) miles long.

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Not many viewers here properly digest Mr. Scully's offerings, Mssr. Graves. You kind of have to consume them like foie gras or caviar with a nice vintage of dom perignon.  (ever drank icy dom perignon out of the bottle from a long straw? It is like sipping the alkahest+..... MY kind of slurpee !!).  Thanks, again, Tom.  Sorry again if I embarrass you sometimes, I'm just an old researcher tired of all the false narratives, still wondering about all the 'revelations' that came from Albarelli, Marchetti, Prouty (LOL) et. al.  Please keep posting your excellent NEW findings (and keep hammering away with the old ones, too !!)  Stars in your Crown, Henry !!+

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« Reply #1108 on: December 12, 2019, 09:39:58 AM »
Bang! one messenger, shot! No, I am a researcher....hard news, equal opportunity critic.:

Consider what you posted, vs my demonstrated posting of links to as close to original sources as practical.... whitehouse.gov , images from court transcript
pages of Michael Flynn's December, 2018 sentencing...who else does that?
My latest, in the off-topic section. Inform yourself...it will be liberating! You give every indication you are suffering a facts deficit...


Horowitz was asked about Comey doing these interviews  "Is James Comey in the clear, Mr. Horowitz?"   and Horowitz replied "NO HE IS NOT"   

So now you should be able to explain why Comey says one thing and Horowitz disagrees,  the ORIGINAL source is Mr. Horowitz on live TV but you need a filtered source. You are not well.
Guess what, Tommyboy  Only 1500  more days for you to complain   January 2025 Sucks to be you ha ha ha ha ha  You have a record of losing. ha ha ha ha
 

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory
« Reply #1109 on: December 12, 2019, 11:34:43 AM »

Horowitz was asked about Comey doing these interviews  "Is James Comey in the clear, Mr. Horowitz?"   and Horowitz replied "NO HE IS NOT"   

So now you should be able to explain why Comey says one thing and Horowitz disagrees,  the ORIGINAL source is Mr. Horowitz on live TV but you need a filtered source. You are not well.
Guess what, Tommyboy  Only 1500  more days for you to complain   January 2025 Sucks to be you ha ha ha ha ha  You have a record of losing. ha ha ha ha

So now you should be able to explain why Comey Trump and Barr say one thing and Horowitz disagrees.....


Sucks to be you ha ha ha ha ha  You have a record of losing. ha ha ha ha

When do you celebrate your 5th birthday?

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