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Offline Charles Collins

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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #150 on: November 12, 2019, 01:57:32 PM »
NBC was the last of the three networks to broadcast his name (3:20 PM). Watching this video, it would appear that very soon after that, they had the information about his adventure in Russia. Take a look at about the 2:33:45 mark.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2oJmFGgfM3zNDdrTWhhYVBXRzA/view

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #151 on: November 12, 2019, 03:30:48 PM »
No, Marina told him nothing of the kind. "Translator" Ruth Paine did..
Also...supposedly...Ruth Paine knew nothing about the rifle :-\
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Mrs. PAINE - I heard on the television that he had purchased a rifle.
Mr. JENNER - When?
Mrs. PAINE - I heard it on November 23.
Did Ruthie--- "gasp"?     :D

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #152 on: November 12, 2019, 05:22:03 PM »
Also...supposedly...Ruth Paine knew nothing about the rifle :-\Did Ruthie--- "gasp"?     :D

Why did dear Ruthie have the date of "LHO purchase of rifle"  marked on her calendar??

Offline Charles Collins

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« Reply #153 on: November 12, 2019, 06:11:33 PM »
I was watching NBC and I think it was around 3pm the first photo of him entering the station was shown. I could be wrong. Maybe it was the Dallas coverage.

I watched the NBC coverage and it hadn't yet shown Oswald's photo as of 4:16 PM CST. However, the CBS coverage does show Oswald at the DPD just before 3:30 PM CST. Dan Rather is commenting. Immediately after the brief view of Oswald they show what appears to be the revolver and some ammunition.

I will try to view the ABC coverage next...


Edit: Here is the link to the CBS coverage video, LHO can be seen at about the 3:00:05 mark:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIM2QxZ09BRHpSWnM/view
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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #154 on: November 12, 2019, 07:18:49 PM »
I watched the NBC coverage and it hadn't yet shown Oswald's photo as of 4:16 PM CST. However, the CBS coverage does show Oswald at the DPD just before 3:30 PM CST. Dan Rather is commenting. Immediately after the brief view of Oswald they show what appears to be the revolver and some ammunition.

I will try to view the ABC coverage next...


Edit: Here is the link to the CBS coverage video, LHO can be seen at about the 3:00:05 mark:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8UwZ588YcqIM2QxZ09BRHpSWnM/view

After viewing the ABC coverage, it appears that they were the first to broadcast LHO's picture at the DPD. This happened at approximately 3:21 PM CST. They broadcast him just briefly as he entered through a door from a corridor and named him also. Bill Lord was commenting. Here is a link to the video. You can find this at about the 2:29:43 mark:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Nx0_rEoKWcO8LJyRV7Lf9ahh9TiIRHAc

Edit: I think I jumped the gun a little bit. This video has apparently been edited and this part of the broadcast appears to be much later. Jay and Bill Lord are discussing time frames and this looks to have been broadcast close to 8:00 PM CST. My mistake.
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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #155 on: November 12, 2019, 09:42:36 PM »
I was watching NBC and I think it was around 3pm the first photo of him entering the station was shown. I could be wrong. Maybe it was the Dallas coverage.

The WFAA-TV coverage video seems to be uninterrupted. The only film they had of Oswald before the 3:30 time of CBS's film was from the Texas Theater. And it didn't show enough of Oswald for anyone to recognize. So it does appear that CBS was first. And it fits the time frame for the search at the North Beckley address.

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« Reply #156 on: November 12, 2019, 10:52:20 PM »
Mr. BELIN. Could you describe how you came to find out that this man had another name other than O. H. Lee?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it was when the officers came looking for him.
Mr. BELIN. When was this?
Mr. JOHNSON. Uh--after Tippit was shot, the police----
Mr. BELIN. This would have been on November 22, 1963?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And can you state what happened?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they just came down there looking for--uh--Oswald.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say what his full name was?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. JOHNSON. I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there?
Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket
Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley?
Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. All right. What happened when the officers got there? They asked if Lee Harvey Oswald lived there?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. How long had you been at the house when the officers arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Oh, probably 30 minutes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember about what time of the day they arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it must have been around 1:30 or 2 o'clock--the best I remember.


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« Reply #157 on: November 12, 2019, 11:48:57 PM »
Mr. BELIN. Could you describe how you came to find out that this man had another name other than O. H. Lee?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it was when the officers came looking for him.
Mr. BELIN. When was this?
Mr. JOHNSON. Uh--after Tippit was shot, the police----
Mr. BELIN. This would have been on November 22, 1963?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. And can you state what happened?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they just came down there looking for--uh--Oswald.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say what his full name was?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. JOHNSON. I believe they did.
Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there?
Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket
Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley?
Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. All right. What happened when the officers got there? They asked if Lee Harvey Oswald lived there?
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. How long had you been at the house when the officers arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Oh, probably 30 minutes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember about what time of the day they arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it must have been around 1:30 or 2 o'clock--the best I remember.

Sounds credible to me (not).

Offline Charles Collins

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Re: Gus Rose
« Reply #158 on: November 24, 2019, 05:37:24 PM »
The WFAA-TV coverage video seems to be uninterrupted. The only film they had of Oswald before the 3:30 time of CBS's film was from the Texas Theater. And it didn't show enough of Oswald for anyone to recognize. So it does appear that CBS was first. And it fits the time frame for the search at the North Beckley address.

In "With Malice" by Dale Myers (Loc 5430 on my Kindle), I found the following:

3:10 P.M. -  WFAA and WBAP television in Dallas were broadcasting the first photograph of suspect Lee Harvey Oswald, take by AP photographer, Ferd Kaufman. The caption transmitted by the Associated Press, with the photograph, underscored the belief that Oswald was guilty of murdering Officer J.D. Tippit:

"Gunman kills policeman - Lee H. Oswald, 24, was arrested in Dallas today in connection with the slaying of a Dallas policeman shortly after President Kennedy was assassinated. He was also being interrogated to see if he had any connection with the slaying of the president."[814]

Footnote [614] CD723, p.2 (FBI LHM, March 30, 1964, Re: First time Oswald's picture was displayed on local Dallas television)

 

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