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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« on: October 09, 2019, 06:28:33 PM »
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TESTIMONY OF CURTIS LaVERNE CRAFARD-- http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/crafard.htm

Was it just filler for the voluminous Warren Report or was there any reason why the Commission would be interested in his childhood history?....his parents history?...his brother and his wife's history?...his sister's family's history?...his wife's family history?..his military history might have been pertinent but it wasn't explored exactly what he did in the Army. He just said 'anti-aircraft' and that was it. Crafard received what used to be called a blue discharge [he only served 13 months]
It seems as one might see it, you could look in the dictionary for the definition of 'drifter' and you would see his picture. [I know..he looks vaguely like Lee Harvey Oswald] He had jobs and wandered around places he had forgotten about. It is not remarkable then that he was married but his wife left him after 6 months----
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Mr. HUBERT. What was the cause of your breakup?
Mr. CRAFARD. That, I do not know.
    Maybe she no longer wanted to live in his parents basement :-\  But not leaving before she was expecting their child. They tried to reconcile when in Dallas he testified...but by around August of 1963 it was pretty much over.
 He ultimately wound up in with a job at the State Fair of Texas which runs for the first three weeks in October...1963. It was then [third day of the fair] that he met Jack Ruby. Mr Ruby had a vision of promoting an idea which ultimately was patented elsewhere called the Twister. Crafard's fair employers went broke even before the fair ended. He was living in a tent on the fair grounds...paid with food, cigarettes, and $5 a day. After staying with some band members, the fair closed and Crafard was broke...he was offered a job working for Jack Ruby. He would do handy man stuff, operate stage lights, set up props, feed the dogs, and kept  the Carousel Club clean and tidy. Larry Crafard had a room set up at the club. There he stayed for just a couple of weeks until the day after the assassination...then he skipped town.
Commission Counsel Hubert asked about Ruby associates ...did he ever overhear conversations...was there any relationships with the show girls at the club...about Mr Ruby's sister Eva who managed the nearby Vegas club. It almost seemed like there was a miniature career for Crafard as an employee of Jack Ruby. He had met so many people in only little over a month.
On Nov 23 Larry Crafard walked to the highway stuck out his thumb and hitch-hiked back to Michigan.
He testified that he had been in Chicago on his way to Michigan when he heard that Jack Ruby had shot Oswald to death.

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Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
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Offline Michael Clark

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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 06:47:34 PM »
Notable is the fact that he spent the night on the phone with a girl he never met or previously knew, and then spent the pre dawn hours driving around with jack and George Senator, taking pictures of billboards and other nonesense.

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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 09:17:19 PM »
.. taking pictures of billboards and other nonesense.
With a Polaroid camera. One was an "Impeach Earl Warren" sign. I wonder if Earl was there to hear that ::)
Crafard must have been a real schmoe to hitchhike around the country with his wife and two kids. He said she wanted to ???

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Offline Michael Clark

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 03:46:32 AM »
Another weird bit about Crafard’s testimony is, IIRC, he lived in both Dallas, Oregon and Cuba, Kansas.

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2019, 04:42:58 AM »
Another weird bit about Crafard’s testimony is, IIRC, he lived in both Dallas, Oregon and Cuba, Kansas.


Michael, some "fall out" for ya..... not quite an interview candidate....

Crafard background testimony, provides explanation for discussion @ancestry.com link. :
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=47&relPageId=421

https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=26492&p=surnames.johnson

Bottom of page:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40390&relPageId=168
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 08:13:10 AM »


Michael, some "fall out" for ya..... not quite an interview candidate....

Crafard background testimony, provides explanation for discussion @ancestry.com link. :
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=47&relPageId=421

https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=26492&p=surnames.johnson

Bottom of page:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40390&relPageId=168

So........ was it Crafard or Lovelady who was up there on the 6th floor in that famous film after Jack's whack?
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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 08:29:20 AM »
So........ was it Crafard or Lovelady who was up there on the 6th floor in that famous film after Jack's whack?

Mark, uploading Billy's obit and reporting on Mac Wallace's trial. Are you aware Mac was leader of group of 25 former stoodents of which three were Jesse Core's wife, Lucy, and two CIA-type, India-philes?

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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40196#relPageId=2&tab=page
(wife of) Jesse CORE was one of a suspect political group, Dallas County Volunteers for RAINEY, which was of interest to the Security Office in 1956-1957 because
Jesse CORE, then Lucy RUGGLES, the daughter of William RUGGLES, an editorial writer on the Dallas Morning News, was particularly active) is said to have ....CIA employee Michael Charles Pearson #62901 and his friend, John Max Rosenfield, #21044 , a former OSS man... (Scully sez.. my research indicates Rosenfield was the son of the DMN music columnist...)
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Re: Larry Crafard- 3 days and 200 pages of testimony
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 08:33:02 AM »
Mark, uploading Billy's obit and reporting on Mac Wallace's trial. Are you aware Mac was leader of group of 25 former stoodents of which three were Je8sse Core's wife, Lucy, and two CIA-type, India-philes?

Gee, I read that he was as suspected Commie while he was at U.T.

--  MWT  ;)

PS  Probably just pretendin' to be one for the evil, evil, evil CIA, huh?

Him and GdM ...
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