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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #264 on: October 27, 2019, 02:19:41 AM »
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If someone can get away with killing a cop in front of eyewitnesses and while leaving the scene is seen fiddling with his weapon, and shells are seen dropped which are exclusively linked to the weapon he is arrested with

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and who leaves his jacket under a car

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and who enters a dark theatre without buying a ticket

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and who punches a cop

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and then tries to kill more cops,

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then I'd hate to think how much evidence would be needed?,

How about some evidence that those claims are actually true?

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Btw the Police easily could have killed Oswald in the theater, Oswald was carrying a gun for goodness sake

Maybe because he wasn’t? Well done!

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #264 on: October 27, 2019, 02:19:41 AM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #265 on: October 27, 2019, 02:22:58 AM »
Still not one serious attempt by an LNr to deal with the combined information below and provide even a weak argument to counter it.

Let's give it one more try;

Can anybody come up with a plausible scenario for Markham still being at 10th/Patton at 1:14 or 1:15 when she testified she left home "a little after 1" and the one block walk from her home on 9th street to the corner of 10th street and Patton would have taken her only 2, perhaps 3 minutes. Markham estimated in her testimony that she took the 1.15 bus to work every day. And before you go there, yes I know that according to the bus schedule (which btw nobody has ever been able to show me) there was a bus at 1.12 and one at 1.22. It actually doesn't matter which bus Markham was talking about, because a walk of two blocks to the bus stop would have taken her no more than 6 minutes. So, if she left home "a little after 1" she would have easily been at the bus stop on Jefferson at around 1.15 and thus not at 10th/Patton. But even if she left home later than she said, how would she be able to see Tippit being shot at 1:14 or 1:15 when she was catching her regular bus to work on Jefferson at that same time? In other words, Tippit must have been shot earlier than 1.15, most likely around 1.06, because otherwise Markham could not have witnessed it.

The same thing goes for Bowley. He arrived after Tippit was killed. In his affidavit he said he picked up his daughter at R.L. Thornton School in Singing Hills at "about 12:55". School bells, in my experience, have a tendency to ring at the correct time every day! Now, let's also not forget that, after picking up his daughter, Bowley was also going to pick up his wife from work, to go on a family holiday and thus had every reason to be on time and be aware of the time! The drive from the school to 10th/Patton is about 7 miles long and takes roughly 13 minutes, depending on the route, making it absolutely possible and plausible for him to arrive at 10th street at 1.10 pm, like he said he did in his affidavit.

If one argues that Markham saw Tippit being killed at 1:14 or 1:15 it inescapebly means that Bowley's arrival at 10th/Patton also needs to be pushed back to - at the earliest - 1:17 or 1:18. This in turn would not only mean that he left his daughter waiting for him at school for some time, which is a foolish notion by itself, but it also does not square with his alleged radio call at 1:16 or the arrival of the ambulance shortly after he made that radio call.

Bowley also said in his affidavit that he saw the ambulance arrive and pick up Tippit's body just after his radio call (which he made within a minute or so after arriving on the scene). Hospital records show that Tippit was declared DOA at 1:15 at Methodist Hospital, on North Beckley, about 1,5 miles from the scene of the crime. DPD officer Davenport says in his report that, while en route, he saw and followed the ambulance to the hospital where he witnessed Tippit being declared dead at 1:15.

Markham's and Bowley's timelines alone justify, IMO, the conclusion that Tippit was in fact shot before 1:10 pm, which makes it nearly impossible for Oswald to have been there. But perhaps somebody can provide a plausible scenario for these two timelines to be wrong...? I'll wait and see, but I won't hold my breath.

Also, does anybody care to explain how this evidence relates to the DPD dispatcher's time calls from clocks which, according to Bowles, could be two minutes ahead or behind "official time" (whatever that means) and recorded on voice actived devices?

I bet you, not one LN is going to be willing or able to honestly discuss this timeline.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #266 on: October 27, 2019, 02:23:25 AM »
That's right, John.

Bill Smith, Helen Markham, William Scoggins, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, Ted Callaway, Sam Guinyard, Harold Russell, Warren Reynolds and Pat Patterson.  Enough said.

Unfair, biased lineups and single photo identifications months after the fact in some cases. Enough said.

P.S. Bill Smith, LOL

WILLIAM ARTHUR SMITH, age 20, 328 1/2 East 8th Street, was interviewed at the residence or his brother-in-law, TIMMIE ANZALDUA, 1831 Idaho Street, Dallas. He advised that he observed Officer TIPPIT when he was being shot by an unknown white male but he did not report it to the police because he claimed he had been on two year's probation for auto theft and he thought he might get in trouble with the police. He said he was too far away from the individual to positively identify him but he said he was a white male, about 5' 7" to 5'8", 20 to 25 years of age, 150-160, wearing a white shirt, light brown jacket and dark pants.

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #267 on: October 27, 2019, 02:26:50 AM »
LOL

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How about some evidence that those claims are actually true?

Maybe because he wasn’t? Well done!

John really needs to persue a career as a comedian.

Some sleezy down town bars in Sydney might even employ him... if only for a night

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #268 on: October 27, 2019, 04:13:48 AM »
How about Warren Reynolds?

Warren Reynolds ID'd Oswald from 2 blocks away? Or from across the street where the guy carrying the gun he ID'd as Oswald threw his jacket under a car in the gas station? That Warren Reynolds?
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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #269 on: October 27, 2019, 04:21:55 AM »
You really should leave pathetic strawman arguments to Richard Smith, John. He's far more expecienced in it than you.
He's far more expecienced experienced in it than you. Fixed it :)
They all seem quite trollish...no experience necessary there.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #270 on: October 27, 2019, 05:13:22 AM »
Warren Reynolds ID'd Oswald from 2 blocks away?

Go back to sleep, Chapman.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #271 on: October 27, 2019, 05:34:18 AM »