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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2020, 06:37:47 PM »
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #249 on: May 08, 2020, 08:15:50 PM »
What evidence photo are you referring to?  And is Day's magic partial palmprint card in this evidence photo?

Patience Johnny, Patience ..... 
 Item #5 is  1  Home made paper bag resembling gun case.            Found by Johnson and Montgomery at 411 Elm and brought to Crime lab.

 And sure enough the paper bag is shown clean as can be in the evidence photo... but on 11 -23- 63 the FBI ruined that nice clean paper bag and turned it a dark brown.     So since the paper bag is NOT dark brown we can know that this photo was taken BEFORE the FBI received it in Washington 11-23-63.     

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #250 on: May 09, 2020, 12:48:54 AM »
Patience Johnny, Patience ..... 
 Item #5 is  1  Home made paper bag resembling gun case.            Found by Johnson and Montgomery at 411 Elm and brought to Crime lab.

 And sure enough the paper bag is shown clean as can be in the evidence photo... but on 11 -23- 63 the FBI ruined that nice clean paper bag and turned it a dark brown.     So since the paper bag is NOT dark brown we can know that this photo was taken BEFORE the FBI received it in Washington 11-23-63.     

Next item on the evidence inventory list.... Item #6....! .38 cal pistol, 2" barrel.    Now, since Gary Craig has been kind enough to post the altered list, let's look at item #6 on the altered list and compare it with the original list.

On the altered list item # 6 says  ....  1  .38 cal. pistol, 2" barrel, S&W, Rev. sandblast finish, brown wooden handles , ser. # 510210. Rel. to FBI agent  11-22-63 and again  11-26-63.     

It can't get much clearer than this..... Released  to FBI agent on 11-22-63 and again on 11-26-63.       This statement corroborates the fact that the .38 cal pistol was released to the FBI on 11 -22- 63 ....and sure enough the S&W pistol is seen in the evidence inventory photo of the evidence that was released to the FBI at midnight 11 -22- 63.   

Do you still doubt that the original evidence inventory list was typed up on 11 -22-63 to accompany the photo of the evidence that was released to the FBI at midnight 11 - 22-63  ??

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #252 on: May 09, 2020, 06:30:32 PM »


Thanks for your effort, Gary.....But this list is irrelevant .....  The ONLY list we are discussing is the original list that was typed up in conjunction with the evidence inventory photo....

I sincerely hope that you can see that even though the original list is not dated....It was created on 11-22-63.    Is this clear to you?

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #253 on: May 10, 2020, 07:46:02 AM »
Thanks for your effort, Gary.....But this list is irrelevant .....  The ONLY list we are discussing is the original list that was typed up in conjunction with the evidence inventory photo....

I sincerely hope that you can see that even though the original list is not dated....It was created on 11-22-63.    Is this clear to you?

Clear as mud.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #254 on: May 10, 2020, 02:34:12 PM »
Clear as mud.

Well extract your head....  I'm sure that will help.

Here's the original evidence inventory list that was typed up in conjunction with the evidence photo of the evidence that was being released to the FBI at midnight 11-22-63.



Notice item number 5 on the list .... "1  Home made paper bag resembling gun case." 
In the evidence photo that paper bag is shown in good condition....but on 11-23-63  that paper bag no longer existed in the condition that it is seen in the photo, because the FBI lab destroyed it in their testing it for finger prints.  So it's elementary that the photo and the original inventory list were created on 11-22-63.....

Now then, I believe we are at item # 7 on the list....which says....Bullet fragments taken from body of Governor Connally .


Item # 8 says....."Live round 6.5"....    And that live round is shown in the photo.....

Then we come to an interesting item ........ item number 9....

item #9 ....   " 6.5  spent rounds (2) "          "Recovered by Dept. Sheriff Luke Mooney at 411 Elm, 6th floor, southeast window." 

So originally on 11-22-63 there were only TWO (2) spent shells that were sent to the FBI on 11-22-63,  They are shown in the evidence photo in the lower left hand corner.     Later the conspirators changed the number of spent shells to THREE (3) but on 11-22-63 there were only TWO.   Which is another indicator that the original list was typed on 11-22-63.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #255 on: May 10, 2020, 06:30:38 PM »
Do you still doubt that the original evidence inventory list was typed up on 11 -22-63 to accompany the photo of the evidence that was released to the FBI at midnight 11 - 22-63  ??

Yes. And you’ve done absolutely nothing to demonstrate that it was.