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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #240 on: May 08, 2020, 03:25:24 PM »
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Thank you....Now we can see that this list was typed up to accompany the photos of the evidence that was released to the FBI at midnight 11-22-63.

Let's look at item number 1   ....

1  Italian make 6.5rifle, serial # C 2766, blue steel,wood stock, brown leather sling, with 4 X 18 coated ordinance Optics Inc., Hollywood California, 0 10Japan telescopic sight.   


Then five days later on 11-26-63 the clerk used a photocopy of this original list and altered it to reflect  information they had learned between midnight 11-22-63 and 11-26-63.    They had learned that the rifle wasn't simply an "Italian make 6.5 rifle..... They had learned that it was a CARCANO CARBINE....so they added that to the photocopy of the original list.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #241 on: May 08, 2020, 03:30:05 PM »
Thank you....Now we can see that this list was typed up to accompany the photos of the evidence that was released to the FBI at midnight 11-22-63.

...and how exactly can "we see" this?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #242 on: May 08, 2020, 03:39:11 PM »
...and how exactly can "we see" this?

It's elementary  my Dear Mr. Iacoletti......  First off....extract your head and open your eyes.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #243 on: May 08, 2020, 03:51:47 PM »
It's elementary  my Dear Mr. Iacoletti......  First off....extract your head and open your eyes.

So, it's just another one of your unsubstantiated assumptions.  Got it.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #244 on: May 08, 2020, 04:22:43 PM »
So, it's just another one of your unsubstantiated assumptions.  Got it.

Perhaps you have trouble understanding " Let's take item  number 1"....    IOW Let's take it one baby step at a time , so that you can keep up.

On the original sheet for 11-22-63 what does it say about item # 1 ?

" Found by Dept. Sheriff Weitzman on the sixth floor,  411 Elm,  5' from west wall and 8' from stairway."     

This tells us that Seymour Weitzman discovered a 6.5 Italian make rifle, and NOT A 7.65 MAUSER.  The rifle was EIGHT FEET from the stairs.....or IOW the model 91/38 6.5mm Mannlicher carcano was about 5 feet south of the row of boxes that formed the south wall of the east/ west aisle at the top of the stairs.   It was NOT jammed between boxes of books about three feet from the stairs. 

Do you understand this elementary information?
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #245 on: May 08, 2020, 05:44:25 PM »
Perhaps you have trouble understanding " Let's take item  number 1"....    IOW Let's take it one baby step at a time , so that you can keep up.

On the original sheet for 11-22-63 what does it say about item # 1 ?

" Found by Dept. Sheriff Weitzman on the sixth floor,  411 Elm,  5' from west wall and 8' from stairway."     

This tells us that Seymour Weitzman discovered a 6.5 Italian make rifle, and NOT A 7.65 MAUSER.  The rifle was EIGHT FEET from the stairs.....or IOW the model 91/38 6.5mm Mannlicher carcano was about 5 feet south of the row of boxes that formed the south wall of the east/ west aisle at the top of the stairs.   It was NOT jammed between boxes of books about three feet from the stairs. 

Do you understand this elementary information?

What does any of that have to do with your claim that this list was typed up on 11/22?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2020, 06:08:14 PM »
What does any of that have to do with your claim that this list was typed up on 11/22?

Patience Johnny, Patience.....  We'll get to that one step at a time.

Item #2 is:  ....1  Green and brown Blanket      And sure enough the blanket is shown in the evidence inventory photo......

Item #3 is: ...   1   .38 slug               
Item #4 is ....Button              Taken from body of JD Tippit at Methodist Hospital by Dr Paul Moellenhoff at 1:30 pm.  He gave THEM ( slug and Button) to  RA Davenport

So the slug was removed from Tippit's body at 1:30.....So obviously Tippits body had to have arrived at the hospital BEFORE 1:30.....  Which indicates that Tippit was shot earlier than 1:16 , because There would not have been enough time to report the shooting....call an ambulance,. and transport Tippit and unload him at the hospital, all in about ten minutes..   

The .38 slug and the brass button are shown in the evidence photo.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #247 on: May 08, 2020, 06:20:16 PM »
What evidence photo are you referring to?  And is Day's magic partial palmprint card in this evidence photo?