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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #168 on: October 28, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »
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What you keep ignoring, Walt, is that there is no reason whatsoever to think that either of these undated lists ever accompanied evidence transferred to the FBI.


Oh really??   Then what the hell do you suggest the lists were created for?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #168 on: October 28, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #169 on: October 28, 2019, 06:10:46 PM »
A whole lot more than that was turned over to the FBI on 11/22. See the Stovall and Turner Exhibits.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #170 on: October 28, 2019, 06:49:43 PM »
A whole lot more than that was turned over to the FBI on 11/22. See the Stovall and Turner Exhibits.


I've never said that the evidence inventory lists were the complete list of the evidence.....There may be more pages of evidence.....???

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #170 on: October 28, 2019, 06:49:43 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #171 on: October 28, 2019, 06:53:05 PM »
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #172 on: October 28, 2019, 07:16:08 PM »
LOL

That seems to be your signature ....  L---- Old Lunatic.   Not sure about the first word could be lying or laughing ......

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #172 on: October 28, 2019, 07:16:08 PM »


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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #173 on: October 28, 2019, 11:54:42 PM »
This thread just keeps giving.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #174 on: October 29, 2019, 02:56:31 PM »
What you keep ignoring, Walt, is that there is no reason whatsoever to think that either of these undated lists ever accompanied evidence transferred to the FBI.

Yes because you were talking about the item that says “Partial palm print off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip on rifle C 2766”, which, as I keep reminding you, is exactly the same on both lists.

You Keep reminding me?....I'm well aware that both the original list "A" from 11/22 /63, and the altered list "B" from 11/26/63 have the 3 X 5 card listed as item # 14.  How could that NOT be true?   The altered list was created from a photocopy of the original list.   

It seems that you simply don't have what it takes to see the truth about the so called palm print.   It's not difficult to see that the FBI and DPD cooked up a tale about Day finding a print  on the rifle after he disassembled it, and then lifting that print, and placing it on a 3 X 5  index card. And then neglected to tell the FBI that he had found a print and lifted it.

Here's a list f items that refute that lie.

1) Day could not have seen a print on the side of the barrel that supposedly alerted him to the possibility that there was more of the print ON THE BOTTOM of the barrel.  It is impossible for a man's palm print to WRAP HALF WAY AROUND a 5/8 inch diameter tube....  Day said that the print was sticking out from beneath the wooden foregrip so he disassembled the rifle and saw the print on the BOTTOM of the barrel.   

2) There is no place where the metal barrel emerges from beneath the wooden stock 3 inches back from the muzzle of the rifle ....As a matter of FACT there is no place where the metal barrel emerges from the wooden foregrip because there is a steel bayonet lug that surrounds both the end of the wooden foregrip and the metal barrel .( see CE 1304 on page 132 WR)    That bayonet lug would prevent anybody from grabbing the round metal barrel and depositing a palm print at the place where Day said he saw the print "on the side of the barrel "   

3) CE 637 is a photo of that 3 X 5 card that allegedly shows  the so called "palm print" on the bottom of the barrel.    Day swore that the lift on the 3 X 5 card came from the bottom of the 5/8 inch diameter barrel.  But the photo clearly shows the area on the bottom of the WOODEN foregrip of a model 91 /38 Mannlicher carcano.    The bayonet slot that is cut into the wooden foregrip is clearly visible in the photo. This slot was cut into the wooden foregrip to allow the blade of the bayonet to be folded back into the foregrip.  ( like the blade of a pocket knife) There is NOTHING on the metal barrel that could have caused those two parallel lines that are clearly visible in the photo ( CE 637) 

4)   When the 3 X 5 card was sent to Washington there was nothing of any value see on the cellophane tape.... It was simply a smudge that Lt Day had imagined might be a palm print at the time he lifted it from the wooden foregrip of the carcano. He lifted that smudge just minutes after he pulled the rifle from beneath the pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.  A Reporter named Tom Alyea watched Day as he lifted the smudge.   

5)  Both the DPD and the FBI swore that the 3 x 5 card with the cellophane tape lift on it was not given to the FBI at midnight on  11 /22/63.   They both swore that Day never gave the FBI the 3 X 5 card that had a scrawled truncated note on it that read .."off underside of gun barrell near end of foregrip  c2766 ", But item number 14 on the evidence inventory list for the midnight transfer of the evidence  lists that 3 x 5 card.

6) One of the chief conspirators, Dallas DA Henry Wade lied when he told reporters that Ossssswald's prints had been found on the gun.   This was a blatant, bare faced lie.   NO identifiable prints ( prints that linked the rifle to any known person) had been found on the rifle.   But the lie served as another knot in the noose that
the conspirators were placing around the patsy,  Lee Oswald's neck.   

7) The DPD were stuck with Henry Wades Lie...   and the FBI had the rifle in Washington, and they had found no prints that could be linked to Lee Oswald,  so The DPD were compelled to create a tale that would support Henry Wade's lie and at the same time explain why the FBI had not found a print that could be connected to Lee Oswald.  Thus the absurd tale about Day disassembling the rifle and finding and lifting the print.

8) The evidence was returned to Dallas.... and the palm print of Lee Oswald ( who had been lynched) was photographically impressed on the 3 X 5 card   
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #174 on: October 29, 2019, 02:56:31 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #175 on: October 29, 2019, 03:42:47 PM »
It seems that you simply don't have what it takes to see the truth about the so called palm print.   It's not difficult to see that the FBI and DPD cooked up a tale about Day finding a print  on the rifle after he disassembled it, and then lifting that print, and placing it on a 3 X 5  index card. And then neglected to tell the FBI that he had found a print and lifted it.

As I’ve mentioned previously, none of this depends on concocting a silly story about a palm print being released on 11/22 via an undated evidence list.