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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2019, 04:10:25 AM »
Well, at least that document actually has a date on it.

But do you see anything about an index card or a palmprint on that document?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2019, 04:10:25 AM »

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2019, 02:18:41 PM »
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Really?... What other reason would FBI agent Hosty, photograph and type up, a list of the evidence... (Hosty is probably the guy who took the photos of TWO ( ONLY TWO) spent 6.5 rifle shells....)

Yes, really.

You brought up Hosty, who said there was another reason for what Hosty did?

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In his book Assignment: Oswald   Hosty tells of being dead tired after running down information, and evidence, all day and then being required to catalog and photograph the evidence.... 

Nice, so?

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I'm not proposing that Hosty created the original evidence list "A" ( although he might have) I'm merely pointing out that the evidence was being cataloged that night.

Who claimed it was not being cataloged that night?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2019, 06:30:30 PM »
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Well, at least that document actually has a date on it.

But do you see anything about an index card or a palmprint on that document?

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"Vince Drain also present.  Actually took possession of all the evidence." signed... JC Day

Mr I, asked...."do you see anything about an index card or a palmprint on that document?"

Duh??   At the time Lt Day didn't know what the smudge was that he had lifted from the wooden foregrip of the rifle.  So how the hell could he enter that item...  For all he knew the smudge might have been Captain Fritz's print....

However, please notice that the rifle is merely identified as a 6.5 "lever action" rifle C2766  and there are only TWO spent shells that were found beneath a window... .   And what does it say about these items?....Doesn't it say that they were released to Charles T. Brown special agent FBI....And did Day add a footnote that says...quote... "Vince Drain also present.  Actually took possession of all the evidence." signed... JC Day   ... unquote

Now let's examine your ability to reason....   Since Lee Oswald is listed as the subject .... WHEN do you deduce this document was written?   WHEN did Vince Drain take possession of all of the evidence?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2019, 06:39:16 PM »
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Yes, really.

You brought up Hosty, who said there was another reason for what Hosty did?

Nice, so?

Who claimed it was not being cataloged that night?

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"Vince Drain also present.  Actually took possession of all the evidence." signed... JC Day

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2019, 08:57:39 PM »
Vince Drain took possession of all the evidence the DPD gave him that night. The index card with the magic partial palmprint was not among those items. Drain knew nothing about it. It arrived in Washington separately a week later.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2019, 11:34:36 PM »
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Vince Drain took possession of all the evidence the DPD gave him that night. The index card with the magic partial palmprint was not among those items. Drain knew nothing about it. It arrived in Washington separately a week later.

Drain knew nothing about it.


If you actually believe that .....  Then you surely believe  the Easter Bunny brings all those chocolate marshmellow, and colored eggs

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2019, 01:17:20 AM »
If Drain was going to lie, wouldn’t he say that he did get the magic partial palmprint on 11/22? Why would he contradict Day if he was going to falsify something? It’s Day who refused to sign a statement surrounding his handling of the alleged lift.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2019, 01:50:08 AM »
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If Drain was going to lie, wouldn’t he say that he did get the magic partial palmprint on 11/22? Why would he contradict Day if he was going to falsify something? It’s Day who refused to sign a statement surrounding his handling of the alleged lift.

Hoover, was in control.... If he wanted J.C. Day to swear that he had neglected to inform the FBI that he had found the print on the metal barrel then that's the story Day would spew...and Vince Drain sure as hell knew that he had better dance to Hoover's tune...   

But the evidence list reveals the truth....That smudge that was lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a carcano was listed as item  #14 on the list of the evidence that Day said.... "Vince Drain actually took possession of all of the evidence"

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2019, 02:32:43 AM »
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Hoover, was in control.... If he wanted J.C. Day to swear that he had neglected to inform the FBI that he had found the print on the metal barrel then that's the story Day would spew...and Vince Drain sure as hell knew that he had better dance to Hoover's tune...   

But the evidence list reveals the truth....That smudge that was lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a carcano was listed as item  #14 on the list of the evidence that Day said.... "Vince Drain actually took possession of all of the evidence"

Walt,

I have truly been trying to understand your argument, but I'm still puzzled about what exactly the purpose of your argument is.

Let's for argument's sake say that the index card with the partial palmprint was indeed taken to Drain to Washington on 11/22/63, as you claim. What would be the significance of that?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2019, 03:24:34 AM »
Or if, as you say, Hoover was in control, why did Hoover want Day’s story to conflict with Drain’s and Latona’s?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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