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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2019, 04:07:00 AM »
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Day wouldn't have said so because.....The so called palm print was just an unidentifiable smudge.... and they desperately needed the villain Lee Harrrrrvey Ossssswald's print on that rifle because Henry Wade had told reporters that they had found Oswald's prints on the gun.  ( Wade was lying through his teeth) 

My God! John...Can't you open your eyes and SEE.... that the so called palm print story is a ridiculous lie.   Simply LOOK at the exhibit CE 639 .... That smudge that the experts swore was Lee's Palm print was very obviously lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.... It was NOT lifted from a 5/8 " diameter metal barrel.... A 5/8 inch diameter barrel is not large enough to contain a man's palm print.

I agree that the magic partial palmprint is extremely dodgy. Even more so because it wasn’t turned over with the other evidence on 11/22.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2019, 04:07:00 AM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2019, 02:28:05 PM »
I agree that the magic partial palmprint is extremely dodgy. Even more so because it wasn’t turned over with the other evidence on 11/22.

The ..."Partial palm print off underside of gun barrel near end of foregrip"  was listed as item #14 on the evidence inventory list.   The S&W revolver was item # 6 on that list and we know that it was released to the FBI on 11/22/63 ....The "Homemade paper bag resembling a gun case was item #5 on that list and FBI agent Sabastian Latona testified that he received that paper bag along with the other evidence on 11/23/ 63.

Why do you insist on denying the facts?.....   The facts indicate that the story about Lt Day disassembling the rifle and finding Lee's palm print on the metal barrel is nothing but a damned lie.   There is ample evidence that the "print " ( smudge) was discovered by Lt. Day on the WOODEN foregrip of the Carcano while he was examining the rifle for finger prints just minutes after he pulled the rifle from BENEATH the wooden pallet.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2019, 04:05:40 PM »
No, the facts indicate that the magic partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card, and that this is no “inventory list”.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2019, 09:45:43 PM »
No, the facts indicate that the magic partial palmprint showed up a week later on an index card, and that this is no “inventory list”.

Then how do you explain the evidence on that list being examined in the FBI Crime Lab in Wash. DC on 11/23/63?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2019, 10:10:25 PM »
Then how do you explain the evidence on that list being examined in the FBI Crime Lab in Wash. DC on 11/23/63?

Some of it was and some of it wasn’t.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2019, 12:02:27 AM »
Some of it was and some of it wasn’t.

Some of it was.....  How do you explain the FBI having that evidence in their possession if they didn't sign a document that listed each item that they had taken from the Dallas Police?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2019, 01:36:46 AM »
Some of it was.....  How do you explain the FBI having that evidence in their possession if they didn't sign a document that listed each item that they had taken from the Dallas Police?

Walt,

Which FBI officer signed that document?

Wasn't one of the major issues that whatever Drain took to Washington on 11/23/63 wasn't correctly documented, leaving the possibility that what was returned by the FBI to Dallas the next day actually wasn't what Drain was given?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2019, 03:01:56 AM »
Walt,

Which FBI officer signed that document?

Wasn't one of the major issues that whatever Drain took to Washington on 11/23/63 wasn't correctly documented, leaving the possibility that what was returned by the FBI to Dallas the next day actually wasn't what Drain was given?

Martin, Clearly you recognize and don't deny that evidence was released to the FBI at mid-night on 11/22/63..... There is ample substantiation that the evidence was listed and photographed prior to releasing it to FBI agent Vince Drain.  Drain was flown on a US Air Force Jet to Washington with the evidence.  There is also ample evidence that the evidence was received in the FBI Crime Lab on Saturday morning .....  The list that was typed up to document the evidence being released listed the "partial palm print off underside of gun barrel  C 2766"  as item number 14.