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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2019, 04:27:38 PM »
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Tom Alyea watched him as he lifted that smudge and placed the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribbled the pertinent information on that card.   

Alyea didn’t say that.

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Day wrote... "Off underside gun barrel near end of foregrip " C 2766  .  ( If he had been in the Dallas PD Crime lab he would have used the typewriter and a clean sheet of paper to record the information, and he probably would have written more details about the discovery.)

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2019, 04:53:18 PM »
Alyea didn’t say that.

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

Alyea didn’t say that.

Oh yes he did!!.... Sorry about your ignorance...

How did you determine what Day would have done if he had been in the crime lab?

You have an aversion for commonsense,.... don't you John

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2019, 08:18:31 PM »
Alyea didn’t say that.

Oh yes he did!!.... Sorry about your ignorance...

No, Walt. Alyea didn’t say that he watched Day lift a smudge from the foregrip and place the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribble the pertinent information on that card. You made all that up.

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You have an aversion for commonsense,.... don't you John

“Common sense” is what you call it when you fabricate a story for which there is no evidence whatsoever.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2019, 09:40:03 PM »
No, Walt. Alyea didn’t say that he watched Day lift a smudge from the foregrip and place the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribble the pertinent information on that card. You made all that up.

“Common sense” is what you call it when you fabricate a story for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

Alyea didn’t say that he watched Day lift a smudge from the foregrip and place the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card ...

Did Alyea say that he "watched as Lt. Day lifted prints from the rifle "in the TSBD just minutes after the rifle was pulled from beneath the boxes of books ?

“Common sense” is what you call it when you fabricate a story for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

Most rational folks with commonsense would understand that Lt Day wouldn't have lifted the print or disturbed the print in anyway if that print had been found on the metal barrel UNDERNEATH the wooden foregrip where it clearly would have been well protected by the wooden forgrip.   Day claimed that after dusting the area with finger print powder and discovering the print he lifted the print with scoth tape.  But when the FBI received the rifle they could not see any indication that the area beneath the foregrip had been processed for prints...Not even a trace of print dust or a print...

And IF Day had found a print while working in the Crime Lab it's very doubtful that he would have placed the lift on a 3 X 5 card and then hastily scribbled a truncated message on that card.... He had plenty of typing paper and typewriter right at his finger tips.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #92 on: October 16, 2019, 05:30:32 PM »
No, Walt. Alyea didn’t say that he watched Day lift a smudge from the foregrip and place the scotch tape on a 3 X 5 card and scribble the pertinent information on that card. You made all that up.

“Common sense” is what you call it when you fabricate a story for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

http://www.jfk-online.com/alyea.html

Tom Alyea wrote:....Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. When he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz. Fritz pulled the bolt back and a live round ejected and landed on the boxes below. Fritz put the cartridge in his pocket. I did not see Fritz pick up anything other than the live round. . . .

Alyea's description contradicts the few brief clips that we've been allowed to see....  The film that we've been shown, shows Lt Day lifting the rifle by the strap and handing it to Captain Fritz....  But Alyea says that Lt Day immediately started dusting the rifle. looking for finger prints. 
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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« Reply #93 on: October 16, 2019, 07:26:10 PM »
http://www.jfk-online.com/alyea.html

Tom Alyea wrote:....Lt. Day immediately turned toward the window behind him and started dusting the weapon for fingerprints. Day was still within the enclosure formed by the surrounding boxes. I filmed him lifting prints from the rifle. He lifted them off with scotch tape and placed them on little white cards. When he had finished, he handed the rifle to Captain Fritz. Fritz pulled the bolt back and a live round ejected and landed on the boxes below. Fritz put the cartridge in his pocket. I did not see Fritz pick up anything other than the live round. . . .

Alyea's description contradicts the few brief clips that we've been allowed to see....  The film that we've been shown, shows Lt Day lifting the rifle by the strap and handing it to Captain Fritz....  But Alyea says that Lt Day immediately started dusting the rifle. looking for finger prints.

As I said in the other thread, if Kritzberg's hearsay and Alyea's memory are accurate, then where are the other "little white cards"?  And what's your reason to just assume that the magic partial palmprint was one of those and state it as a fact?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #94 on: October 16, 2019, 08:20:03 PM »
As I said in the other thread, if Kritzberg's hearsay and Alyea's memory are accurate, then where are the other "little white cards"?  And what's your reason to just assume that the magic partial palmprint was one of those and state it as a fact?

The FACT is:.... I've seen the evidence inventory list and have the deductive reasoning to recognize that the list was created along with photos of the evidence that the FBI took into their possession at midnight 11 / 22/63.

It's truly a pity that you lack commonsense and the ability to think rationally......

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #95 on: October 16, 2019, 08:29:14 PM »
The FACT is:.... I've seen the evidence inventory list and have the deductive reasoning to recognize that the list was created along with photos of the evidence that the FBI took into their possession at midnight 11 / 22/63.

It's truly a pity that you lack commonsense and the ability to think rationally......

"deductive reasoning" is what you call making up stories with no basis in reality.