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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2019, 05:07:00 PM »
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Walt, you are looking for contradictions between records and actions but you can't trust any of it. Like Trump, they flooded the zone with so much BS that you can't pin down the smoking gun.

IMO, the smoking gun is the way the evidence was handled. For example:



Are you shittin' me? Why was EVERYONE handling crucial crime scene evidence without gloves??? Several people including top dog Fritz handled the shell casings with their bare hands. Fritz even staged the crime scene by casually tossing the hulls onto the floor for a photo-op. Would any other agency have handled all the evidence like the DPD, let alone while investigating the murder of the POTUS in the crime of the century?

The DPD's handling of the evidence (including the BYPs) is but one of the smoking guns.

Can anybody in this forum enlarge the muzzle area of the rifle in this photo ? 
 


I'm particularly interested in the position of the slots in the screws that secure the bayonet lug and the front barrel band.....( three screws)

I'd bet the farm that these screws were never turned between the time this photo was taken at 6:17pm and 11/23/63 when the FBI received the rifle in the Crime Lab in Washington.    Lt Day swore that he disassembled the rifle shortly before the FBI took possession of the rifle. Lt  Day could not have disassembled the rifle unless he took those screws out.   I'd bet the farm that those screws are in the same positions as seen in this 6:17 pm photo and photos of the rifle in the FBI crime lab.
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2019, 11:41:21 AM »
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Can anybody in this forum enlarge the muzzle area of the rifle in this photo ? 
 


I'm particularly interested in the position of the slots in the screws that secure the bayonet lug and the front barrel band.....( three screws)

I'd bet the farm that these screws were never turned between the time this photo was taken at 6:17pm and 11/23/63 when the FBI received the rifle in the Crime Lab in Washington.    Lt Day swore that he disassembled the rifle shortly before the FBI took possession of the rifle. Lt  Day could not have disassembled the rifle unless he took those screws out.   I'd bet the farm that those screws are in the same positions as seen in this 6:17 pm photo and photos of the rifle in the FBI crime lab.

This any help, Walt?

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2019, 02:43:58 PM »
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This any help, Walt?

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No , But thank you for your effort....  I hope someone who is a crackerjack whiz kid at enlarging a portion of a photo, can enlarge the front part of the rifle so the screw slots are visible.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2019, 06:23:10 PM »
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No , But thank you for your effort....  I hope someone who is a crackerjack whiz kid at enlarging a portion of a photo, can enlarge the front part of the rifle so the screw slots are visible.

Not enough resolution. Google for pics of the MC at max res (pixel width x height), download, open it in your image viewer and magnify (+) the screws. If you can see the angle of the slots then press the Print Screen button on your keyboard, open the MS Paint program, paste in the screen shot (Ctrl-v), drag the pasted image of the screws to the upper-left section of your screen, Resize the resolution of your image to isolate the screws (hgt x wid), save the image as a JPG file (mc_screws.jpg) to your Images folder, email the file to a buddy who will post it on this site, or do it yourself.

I doubt there are any hi-res images out there to pull this off, but it's not a bad idea, Walt. Good luck!
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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2019, 06:26:05 PM »
Corrected evidence list, now 3 shells

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Note there's a page 2.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #65 on: October 10, 2019, 07:04:44 PM »
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Corrected evidence list, now 3 shells

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Note there's a page 2.

Hi Otto ....Please note that the link that you have posted takes you to the ALTERED copy of the evidence list ( Document "B")

A person can only gain a good grasp of my point by comparing this altered copy to the original ( Document "A") from which this Document "B" was created.....  You need both the original evidence inventory list, and the altered copy of that original to gain a clear understanding that the original list was created on 11/22/63 ....  And the most important item on that original list is item number 14. Which is the 3 X 5 index card that all the lying authorities swore was not turned over to the FBI that night.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2019, 03:13:11 PM »
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Corrected evidence list, now 3 shells

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Note there's a page 2.


I can't be certain.....because the page appears to be blank at first glance....But it appears that page two is actually the back side of page one......and the writing on the opposite side is faintly visible.

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« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2019, 05:50:13 PM »
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I can't be certain.....because the page appears to be blank at first glance....But it appears that page two is actually the back side of page one......and the writing on the opposite side is faintly visible.

I was referring to the actual "(Page 2)", the back of both pages have been scanned giving a total of 4 pages.

What I didn't notice were the punched holes at the top of each page along with the outline of the original(?) punched holes. I vaguely remember the DP made a number of booklet like binders with copies of evidence; all affidavits were included, this is one of them,

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Note page numbering at the bottom, the "(Page 2)" was a later addition. I suggest the pages you're discussing were for internal use and not intended as any kind of receipt. I even think the WC had one made too.

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2019, 11:30:48 PM »
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I was referring to the actual "(Page 2)", the back of both pages have been scanned giving a total of 4 pages.

What I didn't notice were the punched holes at the top of each page along with the outline of the original(?) punched holes. I vaguely remember the DP made a number of booklet like binders with copies of evidence; all affidavits were included, this is one of them,

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Note page numbering at the bottom, the "(Page 2)" was a later addition. I suggest the pages you're discussing were for internal use and not intended as any kind of receipt. I even think the WC had one made too.

Do you believe that evidence can leave the jurisdiction of a PD without any record ?

Commonsense dictates that both the party releasing the evidence and the party receiving the evidence would require documentation. 

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Re: 3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2019, 12:21:36 AM »
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I was referring to the actual "(Page 2)", the back of both pages have been scanned giving a total of 4 pages.

What I didn't notice were the punched holes at the top of each page along with the outline of the original(?) punched holes. I vaguely remember the DP made a number of booklet like binders with copies of evidence; all affidavits were included, this is one of them,

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Note page numbering at the bottom, the "(Page 2)" was a later addition. I suggest the pages you're discussing were for internal use and not intended as any kind of receipt. I even think the WC had one made too.

I suggest the pages you're discussing were for internal use and not intended as any kind of receipt. I even think the WC had one made too.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, Otto.....  Does it make any difference why the Evidence inventory list was typed up?

Whether for internal use of for legal records ...the records of the Warren Commission show that the DP released the evidence to the FBI at midnight....( how could the FBI Crime Lab in Washington receive the evidence if the Dallas PD didn't release it??)

See Page 260 of Volume 24 for proof that the WC had a copy of the list....

 

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