3 x 5 Index Card that is item # 14 On the List

[Walt Cakebread]

The silence is deafening.

I simply can't understand why people can't see the obvious.  Perhaps because I own several carcanos so I can see exactly where the lift originated....I donno, it's perplexing.

[Walt Cakebread]

Detective Day said that he spotted a print on the SIDE of the barrel about 3 inches back from the end of the muzzle end of the wooden stock.  The place that Mr organ has circled and drawn a line to....( the smaller orange circle) Is about 1/2 inch back from where the end of the wooden stock would be if the stock were on the barrel.




in the colored photo the bayonet groove is clearly visible .....The end of the bayonet groove is about 3 1/2 inches back from the end of the wooden stock.   So Lt Day guessed fairly accurately when he said he found the print about three inches back from the end of the wooden stock.

The only reason that I can imagine that Day used that 3 X 5 card in fabricating the tale about finding the print on the metal barrel is because he knew that  he had sent that card to the FBI and he thought that they would confirm his tale.

[Walt Cakebread]

Just curious....  Why doesn't anybody but LNer's respond to this thread?   I'm 100% sure that the "print" on the 3 x 5 card was lifted from the wooden stock of the rifle...  It's so patently clear to me....Why can't others see it?

The 3" X 5" white index card was item #14 on the evidence inventory list  of the evidence that the DPD released to the FBI at midnight 11 / 22 /63 .    Day had found what he imagined to be a palm print on the wooden foregrip of the carcano when he was dusting the rifle for prints just minutes after he picked the rifle UP FROM THE FLOOR   The foregrip is a logical place to look for prints on a rifle..... Tom Alyea said that he watched as Day LIFTED THE PRINT ( smudge) ......

[John Iacoletti]

Give it up, Walt. You’re never going to be able to prove that this list was written on 11/22.

[Walt Cakebread]

Give it up, Walt. You’re never going to be able to prove that this list was written on 11/22.

If I can get enough people to examine the lists....I have no doubt that most readers are intelligent enough to understand that the original list ....the one that lists the rifle as  Quote.... " Italian make 6.5 rifle, serial # C2766 , Blue steel, wood stock, BROWN leather sling with 4 X 18 Coated Ordinance  Optics Inc. Hollywood California 0 10 Japan telescopic sight"....Unquote.

Those readers will understand that at the time the evidence was released to the FBI at midnight  11 / 22/ 63, Nobody knew that the "Italian Rifle" was called a "Carcano carbine"   as the rifle is listed on altered copies of that original list.   There are several other items that reveal that the list was originally created to accompany the photos of the evidence that was being released to the FBI at midnight, but the first item on the list is sufficient for most intelligent folks to see that the DPD originally knew only that the rifle was an Italian rifle..... But by Saturday morning they had been shown an ad by US postal inspector, and FBI spy Harry Holmes that identified the rifle as a "Carcano Carbine"......  Thus when they used a photocopy  of the original list from 11/22/ 63, to create the list for 11/26/63,  they simply added the words "carcano carbine" to the description of item #1 .....   

[Walt Cakebread]

If I can get enough people to examine the lists....I have no doubt that most readers are intelligent enough to understand that the original list ....the one that lists the rifle as  Quote.... " Italian make 6.5 rifle, serial # C2766 , Blue steel, wood stock, BROWN leather sling with 4 X 18 Coated Ordinance  Optics Inc. Hollywood California 0 10 Japan telescopic sight"....Unquote.

Those readers will understand that at the time the evidence was released to the FBI at midnight  11 / 22/ 63, Nobody knew that the "Italian Rifle" was called a "Carcano carbine"   as the rifle is listed on altered copies of that original list.   There are several other items that reveal that the list was originally created to accompany the photos of the evidence that was being released to the FBI at midnight, but the first item on the list is sufficient for most intelligent folks to see that the DPD originally knew only that the rifle was an Italian rifle..... But by Saturday morning they had been shown an ad by US postal inspector, and FBI spy Harry Holmes that identified the rifle as a "Carcano Carbine"......  Thus when they used a photocopy  of the original list from 11/22/ 63, to create the list for 11/26/63,  they simply added the words "carcano carbine" to the description of item #1 .....   

Corrected (Altered) evidence list, now 3 shells....   The list was originally typed up on 11 /22/63 and then a phoyocopy of the original list was used when the DPD sent the evidence back to the FBI on 11/26/63.....   This fact can be verified by reading the description of item #6 on the list. 

Item #6 on the original list for 11/22/63 said ....Quote:...1- .38 cal pistol, 2" barrel ...unquote       

 Item #6 on the altered ( photocopy of the original) list for 11/26/63 says .... Quote....1- .38 cal pistol, 2" barrel, S&W, Rev. Sand blast finish, brown wooden handles, Ser# 510210,    Rel. to FBI Agent on 11-22-63 and again on 11-26-63   

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338192/

[Walt Cakebread]

Give it up, Walt. You’re never going to be able to prove that this list was written on 11/22.

Read the description of item # 6

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338192/

[Walt Cakebread]

Read the description of item # 6

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338192/

Why do folks shy away from discussing the evidence lists?