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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #328 on: November 14, 2019, 07:43:49 PM »
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Why does it even matter if he knew the correct terminology?  Brennan (supposedly) saw a 30-30 Winchester. Marina didn't know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun.

Why does it even matter if he knew the correct terminology?

It not only matters...It's vital to an LNer.....Because Rowland clearly stated the the man that he saw behind the west end window was holding a SPORTING RIFLE with a large scope.

And of course the LNer's can't allow that, because their patsy was said to have used a MILITARY rifle, a Mannlicher Carcano.  Thus the cretins have to attack Rowland's ignorance about the exact kind of rifle his step dad owned.   

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #329 on: November 14, 2019, 10:50:36 PM »
Why does it even matter if he knew the correct terminology?  Brennan (supposedly) saw a 30-30 Winchester. Marina didn't know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun.

Yes!...Both Brennan and Rowland said that they saw a SPORTING RIFLE in the hands of a man who was dressed in light colored (Brennan said khaki) clothing.  And yet LBJ's cover up committee said that the murder weapon was a MILITARY rifle......

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #330 on: November 15, 2019, 02:05:58 PM »
Why does it even matter if he knew the correct terminology?  Brennan (supposedly) saw a 30-30 Winchester. Marina didn't know the difference between a rifle and a shotgun.

It became a pattern with Rowland, how he would start a story and then embelish it. There is no way to judge a persons testimonies other than by what is stated. He went into great detail about the man with a rifle and his description of him framed in the window. It proved to be wrong.
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It shows you Brennan was not an expert nor claimed to be knowledgeable.

Mr. BRENNAN. I am not an expert on guns. It was, as I could observe, some type of a high-powered rifle.

Now contrast that to Rowland.

Mr. SPECTER - How did you know that?
Mr. ROWLAND - I have been around guns quite a bit in my lifetime.

By Arnold's own statements he proves that was not true.
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Marina? In Russia they were not allowed to own a gun other than a shotgun. Oswald hunted with a shotgun in Russia. Given her upbringing she would have no way of knowing.

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #331 on: November 15, 2019, 02:07:14 PM »
It happens.  Have you read Helen Markham's or Mary Bledsoe's or Jack Dougherty's testimony?

Markham no
Bledsoe no
Dougherty yes. It totally depends on whether you believe him to be mentally challenged or not.

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #332 on: November 15, 2019, 02:09:33 PM »
No, he singled out Rowland for special treatment because he didn't like what Rowland was reporting.

Special Treatment? Rowland threw the investigation into the realm of conspiracy by making a claim that he had never made before. He forced them to pursue the truth about his claim.

Ultimately Rowland claimed there was two people in the SN. Of course the WC investigators were going to react and investigate him and his claim. His WC testimony was erratic at best. The WC members obviously would have noted his multiple answers to the same question. Nothing in his testimony would lead you to believe he was a credible witness. The WC members saw and heard it first hand.

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« Reply #333 on: November 15, 2019, 02:12:45 PM »
Ya dumb ass....  Rowland was simply saying that the man was holding a DEER HUNTING RIFLE.....  That's all he was trying to say.   

You do know the difference between a Big game hunting rifle and a military rifle like a Mannlicher Carcano Don't you?....

No he went into great detail about the rifle.
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Yes. One starts with a B and the other with an M. What do you think is the difference?






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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #334 on: November 15, 2019, 02:16:33 PM »
Mr. ROWLAND - No. In proportion to the scope it appeared to me to be a .30-odd size 6, a deer rifle with a fairly large or powerful scope.

              No idea in the world what he is talking about.

No big deal...He simply didn't know.   And he sure as hell wasn't trying to claim that he could know the caliber of the rifle from 200 hundred feet away.

Yes he was. Not a 30 odd six, a 30 odd size 6.

Does your right hand know what your left hand is doing?.....On one hand you say ... "No idea in the world what he is talking about. " while on the other hand in responding to my pointing out that Rowland simply didn't know, And he sure as hell wasn't trying to claim that he could know the caliber of the rifle from 200 hundred feet away.  you say....
 

Yes he was. Not a 30 odd six, a 30 odd size 6.

No you miss quoted him and are trying to characterizing him as talking about a Thirty aught six. You missed the "odd size." Do you have a thirty odd size six too?

Go to any sporting goods store and tell them you want to buy a thirty odd size six rifle and thirty odd size six ammunition. When they stop laughing they most likely will escort you out before you harm yourself or others.



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« Reply #334 on: November 15, 2019, 02:16:33 PM »


Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #335 on: November 15, 2019, 02:24:10 PM »
Yes!...Both Brennan and Rowland said that they saw a SPORTING RIFLE in the hands of a man who was dressed in light colored (Brennan said khaki) clothing.  And yet LBJ's cover up committee said that the murder weapon was a MILITARY rifle......

Rowland proved he had no idea and Brennan said he was no expert.

I thought it was a big game rifle and a military rifle? Now a sporting rifle?