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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2019, 03:57:02 PM »
Again, it is laughable that anyone would take issue with the notion that Oswald's nutty background (known to the FBI) would have made him a suspect.  Oswald himself made that claim.  Many CTer theories are premised on his being set up to look like a political nut who might be an assassin.  That alone doesn't mean he was the assassin.  Only that he would have been quickly identified as a suspect on that basis subject to further investigation that would have uncovered evidence of his guilt.  If a plane mysteriously crashes, for example, and the FBI discover the pilot had connections to a suspect political group like ISIS, then he becomes a suspect.  The investigation would not stop there but continue to find other potential evidence.

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2019, 04:59:07 PM »
Peinfully ignorant. Proposed scenario does not undo Roy S. Truly tipping off Fritz.

You aren't following along.  Of course it does not "undo" Truly noting that Oswald was missing.  That is another - separate element from his political background - that would made Oswald a potential suspect.  The fact that Truly didn't know Oswald's wacky political background is not, however, relevant to the FBI who would have eventually have made all the connections.  They would have connected the dots.  Shots were fired from the TSBD, Oswald worked in that building, Oswald was a known political nut with a history of suspect behavior, Oswald had no credible alibi for the moment of the assassination, Oswald fled the building in the immediate aftermath.  All of that might not be conclusive of his guilt but he would have been identified as a potential suspect leading to further investigation.  And that investigation would have uncovered evidence linking him to the crime.  Finding Oswald's rifle at the crime scene is the most important piece of evidence that links him to the crime.  But even in the absence of the rifle, his conduct and background would eventually make him an obvious person of interest to the police.   

Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2019, 05:48:27 PM »
His “wacky background” had nothing to do with killing anyone. Also you have a weird notion of what it means to “confirm” something.
You are wasting your keystrokes......

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2019, 07:24:08 PM »
Again, it is laughable that anyone would take issue with the notion that Oswald's nutty background (known to the FBI) would have made him a suspect.

What's laughable is that you keep claiming that there's something in his background that would have made him a murder suspect.  Being a Marxist or a defector (false or otherwise) doesn't make one a murderer.  You need more than that to consider somebody a "suspect".

Offline Thomas Graves

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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2019, 09:24:08 PM »
What's laughable is that you keep claiming that there's something in his background that would have made him a murder suspect.  Being a Marxist or a defector (false or otherwise) doesn't make one a murderer.  You need more than that to consider somebody a "suspect".

John,
 
Forget the alleged wife-beating and shooting at General Walker, etc, what it boils down to whether or not the FBI and Secret Service knew before 11/22/63 that self-avowed Marxist and re-defector Oswald had (supposedly) been in contact in Mexico City with KGB officer Valiery Kostikov, believed at the time (probably mistakenly) to have been the head of KGB sabotage and assassination efforts in the Western Hemisphere.

If they weren't apprised of this by the CIA, then we must ask why not.

And if FBI was notified but dropped the ball, then shouldn't we blame Hoover and/or Hosty for the assassination?

--  MWT   ;)

PS  Or would you prefer to blame the evil, evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Hypothetical
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2019, 09:55:53 PM »
Forget the alleged wife-beating and shooting at General Walker, etc,

But these were alleged after the assassination.  "Richard" was trying to make the argument that Oswald should have been considered a murder suspect merely because of his politics.

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2019, 01:39:48 AM »
You are wasting your keystrokes......

This is pretty simple.  Even for you.  Oswald was a known political kook prior to the assassination.  A person the FBI was keeping tabs on for years.  Once it became known to the authorities that he worked in the building from which the shots were fired, he would become an obvious person of interest.  Oswald himself said that for f's sake!  He said that he had been arrested because he once lived in the Soviet Union.  That wouldn't be the end of the investigation or demonstrate alone that he was guilty.  It would simply mean there was cause to believe Oswald was the kind of nut who might do this and look at him as a potential suspect.  If he had an iron clad alibi, then he walks.  But he didn't.  He was fleeing for his life because he was stone cold guilty.