Ruth Paine QA 9/22 at Texas Theatre JFK assassination film premiere

[John Iacoletti]

I was with Dale Myers, 2nd row, on Ruth's right.  In fact, the fellow she talks about who bought her station wagon was part of our group.  She looks to her right at him when she mentions it.  We were all sitting together.

👍 I thought that looked like Dale Myers!

[Bill Brown]

👍 I thought that looked like Dale Myers!

Yep, that's him.  In fact, he rode with us over to the library from the Ruth Paine House Museum.  I'm sitting immediately to his right.

[John Mytton]

I was there.  Ruth had nothing to do with the camera crew filming on behalf of the Irving Library.  In other words, for those who need me to explain in more detail, just because a member of the camera crew knew Buell was there did not automatically mean that Ruth knew for sure whether or not Buell was going to attend (until she saw him).

Here is a pic I took of Buell posing with Ruth with his arm around her....

Wow Bill, two living legends, it must have been a real buzz! Thanks for the photo.

JohnM

[Walt Cakebread]

Ruth’s talk is peppered with “I didn’t know then, but I later learned”.

Right. Learned from people spinning a narrative...

RP has gotten many of her ideas from popular legend....  and she's become a story teller.  It's disgusting to hear her spin her tale.

There are many points I would like to debate with her but I doubt that will ever happen.    At one point in her story she tells of going to the Oswald's apartment at 214 Neely. She said it was not long after the Walker incident, probably about two weeks .    She said it was on a Saturday and when she arrived she found that Lee was preparing to leave town. He had all their luggage packed and was planning to call a taxi to take them to the bus station.  He asked Ruth if she would take them to the bus station.  Ruth said that she suggested that Marina could come and live with her and Lee could send for her when he had found a job and a place for them to live.   The point is she said that Lee's luggage was a duffel bag and some other smaller pieces of luggage ( I know this from accounts I've read about this incident) the point is...Lee had no piece of luggage that was long enough to hold the 40 inch long carcano.  So he couldn't have been toting that eight pound rifle ( which he had no use for) --------- Fast forward to September of 63----  Ruth had gone to New Orleans to once again interject herself into, and  interfere with the Oswald's lives.  She said that she talked Marina into going back to Dallas with her and Lee packed their belongings into her car....  In the video she says that he probably had the rifle in one of the duffel bags..... Really???  He had a 40 inch long rifle in a 34 inch long duffel bag???   I'd like to hear Ruth explain how he performed that feat.   

[Zeon Mason]

RP has gotten many of her ideas from popular legend....  and she's become a story teller.  It's disgusting to hear her spin her tale.

There are many points I would like to debate with her but I doubt that will ever happen.    At one point in her story she tells of going to the Oswald's apartment at 214 Neely. She said it was not long after the Walker incident, probably about two weeks .    She said it was on a Saturday and when she arrived she found that Lee was preparing to leave town. He had all their luggage packed and was planning to call a taxi to take them to the bus station.  He asked Ruth if she would take them to the bus station.  Ruth said that she suggested that Marina could come and live with her and Lee could send for her when he had found a job and a place for them to live.   The point is she said that Lee's luggage was a duffel bag and some other smaller pieces of luggage ( I know this from accounts I've read about this incident) the point is...Lee had no piece of luggage that was long enough to hold the 40 inch long carcano.  So he couldn't have been toting that eight pound rifle ( which he had no use for) --------- Fast forward to September of 63----  Ruth had gone to New Orleans to once again interject herself into, and  interfere with the Oswald's lives.  She said that she talked Marina into going back to Dallas with her and Lee packed their belongings into her car....  In the video she says that he probably had the rifle in one of the duffel bags..... Really???  He had a 40 inch long rifle in a 34 inch long duffel bag???   I'd like to hear Ruth explain how he performed that feat.   

maybe Oswald had the rifle disassembled and that is why Michael Paine felt what he thought were TWO tent poles?

that is possibly true, but I find it incredible that Mr.Paine moving a strangers duffel bag from his wife's car into his own house garage and feeling something solid like metal poles would not take a look see., but maybe the bag had a lock on it and so Mr Paine was unable to inspect the contents of the bag

[Walt Cakebread]

I highly recommend listening to Mr Cal Wheeler as he discusses Lee Oswald with RP .....Listen at the 52 + minute mark...  Bill  Chapman and Richard "Smith"  won't like what Cal Wheeler says....

Mr Wheeler says that he had a conversation with the attorney who visited with Lee Oswald in his jail cell at the DPD headquarters.  Wheeler said that the attorney found Lee Oswald to be intelligent, very polite and congenial.    Which is exactly what all of the officers who questioned Lee reported ...With the one exception, Of James Hosty, .....who said that Lee accused the FBI of using tactics like the soviets use.

[Walt Cakebread]

maybe Oswald had the rifle disassembled and that is why Michael Paine felt what he thought were TWO tent poles?

that is possibly true, but I find it incredible that Mr.Paine moving a strangers duffel bag from his wife's car into his own house garage and feeling something solid like metal poles would not take a look see., but maybe the bag had a lock on it and so Mr Paine was unable to inspect the contents of the bag

Zeon, have you listened to RP on the video?     I'm not sure at what point on the vid she says that she visited the Oswald's on Saturday April 24 ( about two weeks after the Walker incident) She found Lee packed and ready to catch a cab to the bus depot to go to New Orleans.  She said that "they" ( The police) were still looking for whoever tried to kill Walker....   HOW    I repeat HOW could she have known that???....   

I think I know....  Recall that George De Morhenschildt had visited the Oswald during the wee hours of the morning of Sunday April 15.   I believe that the primary reason for that visit was because George wanted the rifle  ( the carcano) that he'd had Lee order from Kleins to be used as a "throw down" gun near Walker's house after the shot through the window.   De M wanted his property ( the carcano) before getting outta Dodge.   ( He was preparing to leave Dallas to avoid a possible "attempted murder charge because of the plot that he and Lee had cooked up to make it look like Lee had attempted to murder General Walker.)  George De M had told Mrs Volshiin a Russian woman who he knew was an FBI informant, was living in Dallas, that Lee Oswald was the scoundrel who had taken the pot shot at General Walker.  De M knew that it wouldn't be long before the FBI started tracking them down, and he wanted to be out of the country .   

At any rate .....The POINT is:..... Ruth Paine was active in keeping tabs on the White Russians living in Dallas.   My guess is Mrs Volshinin told her that Lee was the scoundrel who had shot at Walker ...Thus Ruth Paine who admitted that she spied on the Oswald's and reported her observations to the FBI, decided to pay the Oswald's a visit....And that's when she found them packed and ready to leave town.