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Offline Matthew Finch

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #648 on: November 27, 2019, 01:36:31 PM »
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Pardon my naivety here, as it is from Wiegman, have you got the previous and post frames (to that one selected frame you keep referring to) from the film in question (at the size of the image in your previous post)? What is the consistency of that 'black shadow' throughout the other frames?

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #649 on: November 27, 2019, 01:42:27 PM »
Pardon my naivety here, as it is from Wiegman, have you got the previous and post frames (to that one selected frame you keep referring to) from the film in question (at the size of the image in your previous post)? What is the consistency of that 'black shadow' throughout the other frames?

Not at the size of the frame posted (which is a scan from Mr H. Weisberg's archive), Mr Finch, but this gif shows the problem clearly:



A consistent dark 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady's right side------------even though the man is standing in direct sunlight!

Those who darkened his right (i.e. west) side counted on folks just assuming the shadow from the western column fell like that. Well, we now know to a certainty that it didn't, which fact changes everything.

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« Reply #650 on: November 27, 2019, 03:22:54 PM »
To think after all this time we'd be hotly debating the 3D positioning of a faffing railing pole! No-one of any consequence was in this stairwell if you ask me, anyhow. I agree we should discuss pertinent points of the case, but... ...this?

     Knowing Exactly who/everyone standing on the Landing is wide open to conjecture. In my opinion, even more so than we know due to the time span between the highlighted images and people moving around during this time gap. On the other hand, the Jet Black Curtain falling Straight Down the body of Lovelady has Only 2 options: (1) Legit, or (2) Bogus.

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« Reply #651 on: November 27, 2019, 05:08:19 PM »
the Jet Black Curtain falling Straight Down the body of Lovelady has Only 2 options: (1) Legit, or (2) Bogus.

Correct. And the fact that this curtain starts in Wiegman at the very point at which Mr Lovelady ends in Altgens----------



----------is no coincidence whatsoever.

Had Mr Altgens been standing a little further west when he took his photograph, for example, the curtain in Wiegman would have been made to cover more of Mr Lovelady:



Conversely, had Mr Altgens been standing a little further east, then this curtain scam in Wiegman would have been impossible. Folks would only start asking, 'How can Lovelady be in sunlight in this photo but half in shadow in this film?'

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« Reply #652 on: November 27, 2019, 06:20:28 PM »
Another complicated problem that Alan Ford keeps overlooking is when and how?



NBC televised the Wiegman footage a few hours later that day, in this low quality 6 hour "The JFK Assassination As It Happened from NBC News Archives" YouTube video, just past 2 hours in we see the Wiegman footage, there's no specific timestamp for this exclusive film but during the following segment the TV news guy apologizes for the jerky footage and a little later on, the same guy's timestamp is 4:13 E.T.
Lovelady has the shadow in this earliest footage which means for Alan Ford's theory to work someone realized that some blob could be the killer that needed to be hidden and sent the footage off to some special effects dept and they painted a shadow onto Lovelady to hide Oswald who was behind and got it to air the same day? Whew!
At least Cinque's Altgens6 theory was a single photo whereas this bizarre theory is continuous film footage which is a stack more frames on jerky handheld film, then they painted a shadow onto multiple motion blurred frames all with absolute precision then on top of this, the whole procedure of developing, drying, painting, drying, transferring, then finally transferring on to video and all in a few hours is not physically possible. If the footage showed something it shouldn't then they simply -snip- it out, it's as simple as that, the alternate fantasy of some major sfx job that they did in less than a day is a miracle.








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« Reply #653 on: November 27, 2019, 06:50:49 PM »
This is what they had to work with, looks easy doesn't it?



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #654 on: November 27, 2019, 06:58:26 PM »
Another complicated problem that Alan Ford keeps overlooking is when and how?



NBC televised the Wiegman footage a few hours later that day, in this low quality 6 hour "The JFK Assassination As It Happened from NBC News Archives" YouTube video, just past 2 hours in we see the Wiegman footage, there's no specific timestamp for this exclusive film but during the following segment the TV news guy apologizes for the jerky footage and a little later on, the same guy's timestamp is 4:13 E.T.
Lovelady has the shadow in this earliest footage

 :D :D :D

Mr Mytton has a simple problem---------a shadow on Mr Lovelady he just can't explain. His pathetic efforts to date having blown up in his face, he and his Warren Gullible pals are now getting seriously worried!

Question for Mr Mytton!

Can he kindly give us the name of the technologically advanced citizen who had home video recording facilities on 11/22/63, taped the actual live broadcast from NBC and whose home recording is the source of this 'from NBC News Archives' footage?

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #655 on: November 27, 2019, 10:20:57 PM »
Another complicated problem that Alan Ford keeps overlooking is when and how?



NBC televised the Wiegman footage a few hours later that day, in this low quality 6 hour "The JFK Assassination As It Happened from NBC News Archives" YouTube video, just past 2 hours in we see the Wiegman footage, there's no specific timestamp for this exclusive film but during the following segment the TV news guy apologizes for the jerky footage and a little later on, the same guy's timestamp is 4:13 E.T.
Lovelady has the shadow in this earliest footage which means for Alan Ford's theory to work someone realized that some blob could be the killer that needed to be hidden and sent the footage off to some special effects dept and they painted a shadow onto Lovelady to hide Oswald who was behind and got it to air the same day? Whew!
At least Cinque's Altgens6 theory was a single photo whereas this bizarre theory is continuous film footage which is a stack more frames on jerky handheld film, then they painted a shadow onto multiple motion blurred frames all with absolute precision then on top of this, the whole procedure of developing, drying, painting, drying, transferring, then finally transferring on to video and all in a few hours is not physically possible. If the footage showed something it shouldn't then they simply -snip- it out, it's as simple as that, the alternate fantasy of some major sfx job that they did in less than a day is a miracle.








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John,

Didn't you know?

The evil, evil, evil CIA had Walt Disney and his Fantasia artists waiting for that footage in Jack Ruby's bathroom, paint brushes in hand!

--  MWT  ;)
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