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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #568 on: November 23, 2019, 10:45:56 PM »
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The Lovelady stepping down is a red herring because look at the distance from the top of Lovelady's head to the next frame, that distance is way too much for a step but if you look closely at the shape of Lovelady's head, the way he counterbalances himself with his right arm, the angle and shape of his Tshirt, his button shirt falling forward and creating a shadow across his tummy, his upper body twisting and the shadowing on Lovelady's face, it looks like he's ducking a little and bending forward as you do, to try and get a better look at something or maybe he was just leaning forward to tie up his shoe laces? The total amount of frames of Lovelady is about half a second and is just a flash in time.





And the shadow planes confirms the above.





So as can be seen, Lovelady isn't stepping down and his actions as described above places him here and PP is against the wall a foot in front of the glass.



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     This sea sick motion Malarkey is Bogus. Look at the Guy Standing Below Lovelady.  The Rear of his head is Contracting/getting smaller as Lovelady allegedly "Bends Forward"/downward. On top of that, when Lovelady allegedly "Bends Forward", his shirt actually is moving Backward/ Toward him and flapping/pressing closer to his chest. That shirt is Not falling "forward" as claimed. It is falling Back toward Lovelady. What we are seeing defies gravity.  This Sea Sick Motion stuff is Manufactured Hokum
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #569 on: November 23, 2019, 10:55:30 PM »
     This sea sick motion Malarkey is Bogus. Look at the Guy Standing Below Lovelady.  The Rear of his head is Contracting/getting smaller as Lovelady allegedly leans forward/downward. On top of that, when Lovelady allegedly "Bends Forward", his shirt actually is moving Backward/ Toward him and flapping/pressing closer to his chest. That shirt is Not falling "forward" as claimed. It is falling Back toward Lovelady. What we are seeing defies gravity.  This Sea Sick Motion stuff is Manufactured Hokum

You gotta learn how to structure a post, when you start with an uninformed negative then I ain't going to read any further, go away you stink!



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #570 on: November 23, 2019, 11:01:14 PM »
You gotta learn how to structure a post, when you start with an uninformed negative then I ain't going to read any further, go away you stink!



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #571 on: November 23, 2019, 11:14:45 PM »
    Go away because once again You have been Busted. Not happening



Been busted by you? Get the fcuk outta here.
You have never posted an analysed photo in your life because you don't know how, yet you claim to be able to bust me with a technical skill that you have never yet demonstrated. WOW!
Sorry Royell but can I rarely get through an entire post of yours because you're just so boring, Boring Storing, I'm a Poet and didn't even know it.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #572 on: November 23, 2019, 11:19:35 PM »
The Lovelady stepping down is a red herring because look at the distance from the top of Lovelady's head to the next frame, that distance is way too much for a step but if you look closely at the shape of Lovelady's head, the way he counterbalances himself with his right arm, the angle and shape of his Tshirt, his button shirt right side falling forward and creating a shadow across his tummy, his left lapel that tightens and removes the shadow, his upper body twisting and the shadowing on Lovelady's face, it looks like he's ducking a little and bending forward as you do, to try and get a better look at something or maybe he was just leaning forward to tie up his shoe laces? The total amount of frames of Lovelady is about half a second and is just a flash in time.





And the shadow planes confirms the above.





So as can be seen, Lovelady isn't stepping down and his actions as described above places him here and PP is against the wall a foot or two in front of the glass.



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #573 on: November 23, 2019, 11:46:13 PM »
The Lovelady stepping down is a red herring because look at the distance from the top of Lovelady's head to the next frame, that distance is way too much for a step but if you look closely at the shape of Lovelady's head, the way he counterbalances himself with his right arm, the angle and shape of his Tshirt, his button shirt right side falling forward and creating a shadow across his tummy, his upper body twisting and the shadowing on Lovelady's face, it looks like he's ducking a little and bending forward as you do, to try and get a better look at something or maybe he was just leaning forward to tie up his shoe laces? The total amount of frames of Lovelady is about half a second and is just a flash in time.





And the shadow planes confirms the above.





So as can be seen, Lovelady isn't stepping down and his actions as described above places him here and PP is against the wall a foot or two in front of the glass.



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John,

In the great "bobbing and weaving" GIF you posted, Lovelady doesn't "lean" as far back as Frazier and the guy in the suit (Shelley? Molina?) and the others do at their apogee, but only goes vertical, instead, suggesting to me that he was already leaning forward before he leaned forward even more, which in turn suggests that he may have already had his hand on the center railing, and that it was at this earliest (Wiegman-based) point in your GIF that Altgens-6 was taken.

Question:  How many frames from Wiegman and Darnell, respectively, were incorporated into your GIF?

Was Lovelady still definitely up there on an upper step when Darnell started filming that particular scene, or is what we see some kind of "ghost image" left behind from his dashing down to a lower step to confer with dressed-in-black Gloria Calvery (to the immediate left of the gal dressed-all-in-white)?

--  MWT  ;)
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #574 on: November 24, 2019, 12:41:47 AM »
John,

In the great "bobbing and weaving" GIF you posted, Lovelady doesn't "lean" as far back as Frazier and the guy in the suit (Shelley? Molina?) and the others do at their apogee, but only goes vertical, instead, suggesting to me that he was already leaning forward before he leaned forward even more, which in turn suggests that he may have already had his hand on the center railing, and that it was at this earliest (Wiegman-based) point in your GIF that Altgens-6 was taken.

Question:  How many frames from Wiegman and Darnell, respectively, were incorporated into your GIF?

Was Lovelady still definitely up there on an upper step when Darnell started filming that particular scene, or is what we see some kind of "ghost image" left behind from his dashing down to a lower step to confer with dressed-in-black Gloria Calvery (to the immediate left of the gal dressed-all-in-white)?

--  MWT  ;)

Hi Thomas, yeah, compare Lovelady with PrayerPerson, PP is further back and has been established as being about 5'3" but Lovelady appears to be only a little taller and Frazier who is 6 foot absolutely towers over the both of them.



Answer: using one of each is the only way to do that sort of comparison.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #575 on: November 24, 2019, 12:53:33 AM »
Hi Thomas, yeah, compare Lovelady with PrayerPerson, PP is further back and has been established as being about 5'3" but Lovelady appears to be only a little taller and Frazier who is 6 foot absolutely towers over the both of them.



Answer: using one of each is the only way to do that sort of comparison.

JohnM

John,

Thanks for the feedback.

Question:  Is Lovelady still up there in the Darnell frame, or could that be him on a much lower step, talking with the woman in black (to the immediate left of the woman dressed all-in-white)?

--  MWT  ;)

Edit: Come to think of it, I'm not sure I understand you. If there's only one frame from each in your GIF, why then do Prayer Person's arms go up and down so smoothly and continuously?

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