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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #328 on: November 17, 2019, 01:29:16 AM »
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Your post no. 570 in which you claim that 2nd head which IS VISIBLE, therefore NOT blackened out, is the head of Oswald.

Your suggestion that the conspirators were pressed for time, yet they apparently had enough time to examine EACH FRAME of the Wiegman film AND had the time to use a technique of some sort to INDIVIDUALLY blacken EACH FRAME one by one, which is NOT  a hastily done process... and yet.. the HEAD which is VISIBLE , they MISSED?????

Whether the conspirators anticipated future examination of Wiegman film with improved tech in the future is irrelevant to my question WHY DIDNT THEY BLACKEN OUT THE FACE of the supposed Oswald figure?

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do you have another explanation than "a rush job" as the reason to have missed the 2nd head which if it is as distinguishable as you claim to be Oswald

Where did I claim it was distinguishable as Mr Oswald's head?

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, they SURELY should have made EVERY effort to make sure the most ESSENTIAL element of the figure, the FACE is blacken out.

If you're unhappy with the cover-up investigators' work, take it up with them not with me!  Thumb1:

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Or is the 2nd head an aberration or motion blur and does NOT actually exist? If that is the reason for the 2nd head being visible, THEN your anomalous black shadow alteration theory makes more sense, at least to me :)

Huh? They cast half of Mr Lovelady's body into darkness for the heck of it::)

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #328 on: November 17, 2019, 01:29:16 AM »


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #329 on: November 17, 2019, 01:44:52 AM »
Now!

The priority in this rush job was to kill any identification of Mr Oswald in Wiegman. (Remember: they knew exactly where to find Mr Oswald in Wiegman, because Mr Oswald will have told Captain Fritz in his first interrogation exactly where he was at the time of the shooting. Mr Lovelady's name will have been mentioned, which explains why they went straight to him with a blowup of the Altgens photograph.)


If Mr.Fords statement above is correct, then it READILY APPARENT that the conspirators made a HUGE mistake in not blackening out the 2nd head.

They were Rushed? :D yet they had enough time to meticulously go frame by frame of Wiegman carefully blackened out some figure they thought was Oswald, but.. Missed his face, AND missed the white T shirt and whatever else Mr.Ford thinks he sees in there  :D

What about my question if the 2nd head phenom is just motion blur? Agree or Not agree?


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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #330 on: November 17, 2019, 01:54:57 AM »
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The priority in this rush job was to kill any identification of Mr Oswald in Wiegman. (Remember: they knew exactly where to find Mr Oswald in Wiegman, because Mr Oswald will have told Captain Fritz in his first interrogation exactly where he was at the time of the shooting. Mr Lovelady's name will have been mentioned, which explains why they went straight to him with a blowup of the Altgens photograph.)


If Mr.Fords statement above is correct, then it READILY APPARENT that the conspirators made a HUGE mistake in not blackening out the 2nd head.

If it was such a HUGE mistake, Mr Mason, why did it take until 21 October 2019 for the second head even to be noticed?

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They were Rushed? :D yet they had enough time to meticulously go frame by frame of Wiegman carefully blackened out some figure they thought was Oswald, but.. Missed his face,

Can't you read? They didn't miss his face in those frames where it was identifiable.

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AND missed the white T shirt and whatever else Mr.Ford thinks he sees in there  :D

What about my question if the 2nd head phenom is just motion blur? Agree or Not agree?

Funny how it only happens to Mr Lovelady--------------yes, that would be the same Mr Lovelady who has an impossible 'shadow' down his right side!

Your problem, Mr Mason, is that you talk as though that dark strip in all the Wiegman frames has found a credible alternative explanation to the one I have offered. It hasn't-------not even close. Your own explanation-----------it's the vertical shadow we see on Mr Frazier in Darnell------------did win marks for hilarity though!   :D

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« Reply #330 on: November 17, 2019, 01:54:57 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #331 on: November 17, 2019, 02:06:33 AM »
    Forget the Oswald claim. Instead, tell this Forum exactly what is that Straight-As-A-String, Jet Black, Curtain.

For a start the darkened area follows Lovelady's shirt and isn't straight. And since you've only seen a copy of a copy of a video copy of a 16mm film, claiming the area is jet black is a little premature. Has your monitor been professionally calibrated?



Here is the video and the amount of motion blur in these frames is obviously excessive and then you want to believe that someone painted in the motion blur along with the shadow into multiple frames where they essentially had to "guess" exactly what to paint and still make it photo realistic? And instead of just easily removing the frames which nobody would miss they undertook some massive project with so much potential for failure, why would they bother?
It must be really neat to live in a fantasy world where you can imagine anything you want and totally ignore any scientific technicalities.



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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #332 on: November 17, 2019, 02:10:23 AM »
For a start the darkened area follows Lovelady's shirt and isn't straight. And since you've only seen a copy of a copy of a video copy of a 16mm film, claiming the area is jet black is a little premature. Has your monitor been professionally calibrated?



Here is the video and the amount of motion blur in these frames is obviously excessive and then you want to believe that someone painted in the motion blur along with the shadow into multiple frames where they essentially had to "guess" exactly what to paint and still make it photo realistic? And instead of just easily removing the frames which nobody would miss they undertook some massive project with so much potential for failure, why would they bother?
It must be really neat to live in a fantasy world where you can imagine anything you want and totally ignore any scientific technicalities.



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Synopsis: Mr Mytton still can't explain why there's a dark vertical strip down Mr Lovelady's right side!  Thumb1:

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #332 on: November 17, 2019, 02:10:23 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #333 on: November 17, 2019, 02:10:48 AM »
Now!

The priority in this rush job was to kill any identification of Mr Oswald in Wiegman. (Remember: they knew exactly where to find Mr Oswald in Wiegman, because Mr Oswald will have told Captain Fritz in his first interrogation exactly where he was at the time of the shooting. Mr Lovelady's name will have been mentioned, which explains why they went straight to him with a blowup of the Altgens photograph.)


If Mr.Fords statement above is correct, then it READILY APPARENT that the conspirators made a HUGE mistake in not blackening out the 2nd head.

They were Rushed? :D yet they had enough time to meticulously go frame by frame of Wiegman carefully blackened out some figure they thought was Oswald, but.. Missed his face, AND missed the white T shirt and whatever else Mr.Ford thinks he sees in there  :D

What about my question if the 2nd head phenom is just motion blur? Agree or Not agree?

All good questions but don't expect a coherent answer, watching Ford fumble, stumble and bumble his way through his latest hare brained theory is frankly hilarious!

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #334 on: November 17, 2019, 02:12:18 AM »
All good questions but don't expect a coherent answer, watching Ford fumble, stumble and bumble his way through his latest hare brained theory is frankly hilarious!

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I, Mr John Mytton, have a rational explanation for the dark vertical strip down Mr Lovelady's side in Wiegman: _________________________.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #334 on: November 17, 2019, 02:12:18 AM »


Offline John Mytton

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #335 on: November 17, 2019, 02:19:05 AM »
Synopsis: Mr Mytton still can't explain why there's a dark vertical strip down Mr Lovelady's right side!  Thumb1:

 ;D >:( 8) ??? ::) :) :-[ :-\ :-*

I don't really care, Oswald had many opportunities to tell the world that he was on the steps with his friends watching the P.Parade and for some reason he never said "Boo" and on top of this Oswald agreed with the question that he was inside at the time. It's all over red rover!

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