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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2019, 08:02:05 PM »
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Weigman film captures Lovelady on the steps 1st. Weigman film also captures  Mr.Campbell with presumably Mrs Reid, standing on the curb of Elm st, as Wiegmans car goes past. Mrs Reid may be the heavyset older woman in white scarf right beside Mr.Campbell.

Then Altgens 6 photo captures  Lovelady still on the steps approx at Z255 just after  2nd shot fired (although imo, z233may be the FIRST shot heard)

Then Couch film supposedly does not start until 24 seconds after last shot fired and is capturing Lovelady and Shelly moving away and Gloria Cavalry at the front steps talking to Joe Molina, and there is finally BW Frazier seen, who moved up to the top hand railing after Shelly had left to join with Billy lovelady,


Thats how i understand the sequence. Its this not correct?

"Mrs. Reed" and Ochus Campbell were actually standing in the street (the base of Elm Street Extension) in front of the TSBD, in a line of people that stretched from the tip of the "island" to the imaginary intersection of Houston Street and Elm Street propper.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2019, 08:02:05 PM »


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2019, 08:09:30 PM »
"Mrs. Reed" and Ochus Campbell were actually standing in the street (the base of Elm Street Extension) in front of the TSBD, in a line of people that stretched from the tip of the "island" to the imaginary intersection of Houston Street and Elm Street propper.

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So its not been established definitely where exactly Mrs Robert A.Reid is in Wiegman film?

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2019, 08:15:24 PM »
So its not been established definitely where exactly Mrs Robert A.Reid is in Wiegman film?

Mrs. Robert A. Reid, or "Mrs. Robert A. Reid"?

Look at Don Roberdeau's most recent map. He has the latter correctly placed on it (in that curving line of blue dots in the street), but not Campbell.

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« Last Edit: October 22, 2019, 09:24:55 PM by Thomas Graves »

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« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2019, 08:15:24 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2019, 08:50:19 PM »
So its not been established definitely where exactly Mrs Robert A.Reid is in Wiegman film?

Correct.

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2019, 08:57:32 PM »

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Oswald @1:17 in the following video admits to being in the building at the time. Game over!
And btw if Oswald was outside watching the President with his friends wouldn't he be screaming out to the Press, "I was outside with my friends watching the President's parade", I know I would be but I guess in bizarro opposite world the rules are different?


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If LeeHarveyOswald had been anywhere on the top step, landing, or steps, there would easily have been at least 10 eyewitnesses that also worked at the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building, and that either knew him or knew who he was, available to testify as confirmation of said presence as filmed and/or during the fatal wounding of JohnKennedtSr and critical wounding of JohnConnallyJr.

So, yes, he would have stated that he was there, and named corroborating eyewitnesses for confirmation, if he had been on the steps/landing at that time. But, without any reliable indicative information of evidentiary value that indicates said presence, and with reliable indicative information of evidentiary value that indicates he was not there at the time, sufficient indications sufficiently indicate him to have been elsewhere.


What is your "reliable indicative information of evidentiary value that indicates he was not there at the time"?

Did you, Mr Iacoletti, by chance read Mr Mytton's posted Reply, that I posted a Reply to in agreement with Mr Mytton's said posted Reply?

If it is your claim that PrayerPerson/Image represents LeeHarveyOswald, what do you claim as indicative information of evidentiary value?

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« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2019, 08:57:32 PM »


Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2019, 10:04:57 PM »
LOL.

Just so we're all clear about these "obvious" features that Tommy thinks he sees.  Here's what we are talking about.  [images credit: Bart Kamp]

The area we are talking about inside the actual image is this.



Enlarging the enlargement even further:



Obvious "dark colored horizontal bars", huh?

How about looking at that area in a different frame and enlarging it further:



Nope.

Maybe enhancing another frame?  Still nope.



John,

Why are you covering it up with your big clever black arrows?  And why did you blow it up so much, like you did on another thread several months ago to make Calvery's glasses in Betzner-3 "disappear" due to the poor resolution?

(At least other members and guests know where to look in the Darnell frame that Royell posted above on page 20, now, so thanks for that.)

--  MWT   ;)


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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2019, 10:08:32 PM »
Why are you covering it up with your big clever black arrows?

Actually they are Bart's clever black arrows.  They show the area where you are pretending to see "horizontal bars".

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2019, 10:11:26 PM »
Actually they are Bart's clever black arrows.  They show the area where you are pretending to see "horizontal bars".

Bart's very "clever," too.

Once again:

John,

Why are you covering it up with your Bart's big clever black arrows?  And why did you(?) blow it up so much, like you did on another thread several months ago to make Calvery's glasses in Betzner-3 "disappear" due to poor resolution?

(At least other members and guests know where to look in the Darnell frame that Royell posted above on page 20, now, so thanks for that.)

--  MWT   ;)
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