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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2019, 10:14:24 PM »
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Now! If no blacking out had been done on this frame, what would we be seeing:



Well, if Mr Oswald is indeed DarnellPrayerMan, then we'd be seeing
---------------Mr Lovelady's right arm (long-sleeved) terminating in a hand
---------------Mr Oswald's right arm (sleeves rolled up) terminating in a hand.

Too many arms/hands-------------they both gotta go!

If Mr Oswald is not DarnellPrayerMan, then we'd be seeing
---------------Mr Lovelady's right arm (long-sleeved) terminating in a hand
---------------Mr Oswald's right arm (long-sleeved?) terminating in a hand.

Too many arms/hands-------------they both gotta go!

And if this frame hadn't had been subjected to blacking out, what would we be seeing?



--------------Mr Lovelady's right side
--------------a full view of Mr Oswald's head and a significant portion of his upper body, for Mr Lovelady has moved downwards while Mr Oswald is still where he was up on the landing

Too much information-------------some of it's gotta go!

Least worst option: let's make it look like a shadow going down Mr Lovelady. No one will ever notice that a shadow on someone standing there is a complete physical impossibility!  Thumb1:


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Re: Those Front Steps
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2019, 10:37:35 PM »
Now!

How did they know where to look for unwelcome evidence of Mr Oswald's alibi in the film & photo evidence? How did they know way back then what we are only now establishing as to the identity of the man behind Mr Lovelady?

Easy: Mr Oswald had told them:



He must have been grilled on his exact whereabouts in that entranceway at the time of the shooting, and he would have happily given them the information they needed.

This is why the Altgens photo gave them such an early fright!

It was a massive stroke of luck for the cover-up investigators that Altgens did not capture more of Mr Oswald than this:



But Wiegman, because of the angle from which it was filmed, proved a major-league headache
-----------------------------nearly as bad as the Baker-Oswald-Truly encounter by the front door which had to be moved up to the second-floor!  :D
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2019, 11:34:26 PM »
If it were real clear, we wouldn't be seeing it-----------it too would have been blacked out!

Only if Mr Frazier had two heads-----here he is in the Wiegman film!





Pauline Sanders was not that tall!  :D

     Where is Buell Frazier standing on the alleged 2 Heads Images? The Circled Image that you are claiming to be Frazier, is extremely close to the same position of your alleged 2 Heads Images. Unless you can Prove otherwise, Frazier could have moved slightly becoming 1 of the heads in your alleged 2 heads images.
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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #99 on: October 21, 2019, 11:52:46 PM »
I a months time, anybody can see where the shadow was at 12.30 on 11/22/63, as it will be the same, assuming that the sun is shining and there is a shadow.
In fact, next Tuesday, 11.22.19, the shadow will be only one and a half degrees further west than it was on the day that the President was murdered.
Is that a typo Ray? Did you mean to say, next Tuesday, 10.22.19?

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2019, 12:07:12 AM »
     Where is Buell Frazier standing on the alleged 2 Heads Images? The Circled Image that you are claiming to be Frazier, is extremely close to the same position of your alleged 2 Heads Images. Unless you can Prove otherwise, Frazier could have moved slightly becoming 1 of the heads in your alleged 2 heads images.

No, Messrs Lovelady and Frazier are not 'extremely close' to one another--Mr Frazier is back near the door:



And no, Mr Frazier does not have time to do what you're suggesting:



Now! What was the height difference between Messrs Lovelady and Frazier? Greater or smaller than the height difference of Messrs Lovelady and Oswald?



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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2019, 12:27:40 AM »
Now! The most likely scenario IMO:

1! Mr Oswald comes downstairs at lunch break
2!! He goes up to the second floor lunch room and buys a coke
3!!! He takes the coke downstairs to have with his lunch on the first floor
4!!!! He notices Messrs Jarman and Norman coming into the building from the rear
5!!!!! He goes outside to watch P. parade
6!!!!!! At the time of the shots he is standing in front and to the right of Mr Frazier and just behind Mr Lovelady
7!!!!!!! Right after the shooting, he moves across to the western wall (DarnellPrayerMan)
8!!!!!!!! He has an encounter at the front door/in the building vestibule with Officer Baker and Mr Truly
9!!!!!!!!! He is accused of being the lone assassin of JFK and shot dead two days later

Please note: points 1, 2, 3 & 5 are exactly what he claimed in custody:



Naturally, these claims were buried and only came to light five-and-a-half decades later.

As to the color of Carol Reed's shoelaces or whether the Joe Smith who married Betsy Magoo really did go to tennis camp with Buddy Klandestein's third cousin twice removed, I'm still agnostic tbh. These are weighty questions considerably above my pay grade!

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« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2019, 01:18:29 AM »
You've never provided a scintilla of evidence that Chris Calvery (born in 1977) ever told you anything.

John,

If my math is correct, Gloria Calvery was 21 years old at the time of the assassination, and 35 years old when her son Chris was born.

Chris was around 40 years old when Brian spoke with him on the phone.

Question:  Don't you think most 40 year-old people can identify their mother or father in a photo that was taken of them when they were 21 years old?

--  MWT   ;)
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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2019, 08:44:23 AM »
Is that a typo Ray? Did you mean to say, next Tuesday, 10.22.19?

Yes, It was a typo, Mr Trotter. Thank you for correcting it.