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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #840 on: December 05, 2019, 02:27:14 AM »
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Thanks for the higher res graphic.
1, The shadow is not Jet Black.
2. The shadow line is not a curtain.
3. The shadow naturally follows Lovelady's shirt.
4. The detail and associated highlighting in the entire shadow is consistent with Lovelady's shadow.
5. The level of artistry on display in the photo realistic Lovelady shadow is really a sight to behold and to think they did this not once but a dozen times with jerky, motion blurred, hand held film? Far out man, far out!



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The scam was to make people think this was a natural shadow. But it can't be a natural shadow, because there ain't no shadow there. Each and every one of your increasingly frantic attempts to place Mr Lovelady somewhere the natural shadow line actually was, Mr Mytton, has come an absolute cropper. Sorry!  Thumb1:

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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #841 on: December 05, 2019, 02:38:09 AM »
Now!

It has been claimed that, if the Wiegman film was doctored to put Mr Lovelady in 'shadow', then the timeline for this would have been impossibly tight. The only evidence put forward for this claim has been an NBC TV broadcast from 1988 which purported to show the 'original' footage from Wiegman that went out to the American public on the afternoon of the assassination!  :D

Here's what the late Mr Gary Mack told Mr Darren Hastings in March 2015 (emphases added):

NBC owns the original Wiegman film but when producers of JFK: Death in Dealey Plaza asked them for it 12 years ago (at my request), NBC could only locate a 1960s-era video tape of it. We wound up using, I think, a 1963/1964 theatrical newsreel version held by UCLA.
NBC took the original Wiegman and Darnell films from the Dallas NBC affiliate to New York following the assassination weekend.


So much for 'they only had a couple of hours to do this'!  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #842 on: December 05, 2019, 02:40:10 AM »
WOW! There he is. Our man Oswald. Smirk and all. You da man Al.  Thumb1:

Do let us know if you wish to offer anything substantial by way of challenging this exoneration of Mr Oswald, Mr Nickerson. So far your pal Mr Mytton has gotten absolutely nowhere!  Thumb1:

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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #843 on: December 05, 2019, 02:47:47 AM »
Hilarious, they painted a shadow onto Lovelady to hide Oswald but "they" missed the growth coming out of the side of Lovelady's head? WOW.
But considering "they" did all this acquiring, developing, transferring, painting, drying, telecining all in a single afternoon, then missing that huge growth must have been part of the plan, now all we have to do is wait for Ford's wonderful imagination to help us fill in tbe gaps, waiting......
Btw the very foundation of this theory is painting "black" onto celluloid, has Ford actually consulted with any film specialists to establish the feasibility of acclomplishimg this monumental task without detection?

JohnM
I bet you wear fruity fashion glasses, right?
You should throw them away, skip having your eyes checked but make sure you talk to a neurologist.
Etch a Sketch may be what you need instead of glasses.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #844 on: December 05, 2019, 02:49:36 AM »




Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963, but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

While calculating the position of the center railing I realized that from all the front angles of the TSBD I could find, that the top post of the railing when extended meets the light above virtually dead center.



Now when the perspective above is applied to my super duper GIF, by dropping a plumb line from the center of the lamp we see that the railings positions are accurate but my original lengths were both a bit too long so I "painted them out" and even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out. Anyway we see that where the railing finishes is behind "the lady in black" and Oswald is off under the shadow.



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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #845 on: December 05, 2019, 03:16:19 AM »
James H,
What is the distance from the west wall to where the shadow intersects the landing?
Thank you,
Chris

Chris,
It looks like that distance is about 38” 29" from the wall. The renderings use a rule with 3” sections. I took a number of photos and measures of the doorway structures while in Dallas about 6 weeks ago. So, I may need to make some slight adjustments in the future. Tho Darnell overhead rendering in your post is not mine, but Andre Stancak's.

I also took photos of the doorway that may be of some help or interest in the future. All of those photos were taken while Daylight Savings Time was still in effect.
I hope this helps you.








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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #846 on: December 05, 2019, 03:20:56 AM »
Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963,

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but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

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You mean the GIF that gets the center railing all wrong?





Hope you are happy to be corrected here too, Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:
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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #847 on: December 05, 2019, 03:28:49 AM »
Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963, but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

While calculating the position of the center railing I realized that from all the front angles of the TSBD I could find, that the top post of the railing when extended meets the light above virtually dead center.



Now when the perspective above is applied to my super duper GIF, by dropping a plumb line from the center of the lamp we see that the railings positions are accurate but my original lengths were both a bit too long so I "painted them out" and even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out. Anyway we see that where the railing finishes is behind "the lady in black" and Oswald is off under the shadow.



JohnM

"even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out."

Thanks for your opinion.  Ha ha ha ha ha  You're right, the doctored product fails to look like an original Wake up You think everything is an original, that is simply because you don't know the difference except if you are the one tampering with it. Pretty ignorant, John