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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #490 on: January 02, 2020, 03:34:51 PM »
I was merely pointing out a verified FACT---i.e., that *even if LHO had been in or near the Domino Room at approximately 12:25 PM CST on 11/22/63, it would NOT give Oswald an alibi for 12:30 PM when the President was shot.
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Bud's speculation was that Oswald might have gone back downstairs to the first-floor Domino Room shortly before he assassinated the President in order to retrieve the rifle bullets that he had forgotten to take up to the sixth floor earlier in the day. (I think Bud was theorizing that Oswald probably had the bullets in the pocket of his blue coat which was later found in the Domino Room.)
verified FACT....Who verified this fact? This is like saying that Oswald woke up that morning KNOWING that that the motorcade would be passing under his building at precisely 12:30...therefore--he could dilly-dally and even eat his lunch until 12:28, when he could then arrive at his perch and start shooting ::)   
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theorizing...probably
We are free to THEORIZE and could have and MAYBE --just as long as the Oswald did it conclusion is reached :-\     
*even if ..Oswald was sitting in the restroom at 12:25 he still got up to floor #Six just in time!
Enough is enough and too much stinks.
 
 

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #491 on: January 02, 2020, 04:30:56 PM »
verified FACT....Who verified this fact? This is like saying that Oswald woke up that morning KNOWING that that the motorcade would be passing under his building at precisely 12:30...therefore--he could dilly-dally and even eat his lunch until 12:28, when he could then arrive at his perch and start shooting ::)   We are free to THEORIZE and could have and MAYBE --just as long as the Oswald did it conclusion is reached :-\     
*even if ..Oswald was sitting in the restroom at 12:25 he still got up to floor #Six just in time!
Enough is enough and too much stinks.

If Lee was in the domino room at 12:27 when Junior Jarman and Harold Norman passed by as he said he was, and he saw them, as he said he did, then he would have been two minutes late to get to the imaginary stage prop,  "Sniper's Nest".   JFK was scheduled to arrive at the Trade Mart at 12:30, and that would have placed the motorcade at the TSBD at about 12:25.  ..... 

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #492 on: January 02, 2020, 04:34:20 PM »
If Lee was in the domino room at 12:27 when Junior Jarman and Harold Norman passed by as he said he was, and he saw them, as he said he did, then he would have been two minutes late to get to the imaginary stage prop,  "Sniper's Nest".   JFK was scheduled to arrive at the Trade Mart at 12:30, and that would have placed the motorcade at the TSBD at about 12:25.  .....

Actually, the motorcade was running late by some 15 minutes. It should have passed by the TSBD at 12.15

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The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #493 on: January 02, 2020, 04:38:26 PM »
If Lee was in the domino room at 12:27 when Junior Jarman and Harold Norman passed by as he said he was, and he saw them, as he said he did, then he would have been two minutes late to get to the imaginary stage prop,  "Sniper's Nest".   JFK was scheduled to arrive at the Trade Mart at 12:30, and that would have placed the motorcade at the TSBD at about 12:25.  .....

That's why Oswald probably heard or saw Jarman and Norman coming up the elevator...

It is frustrating as a researcher to discover serious new evidence of Sarah Stanton seeing Oswald outside the 2nd floor lunch room intending to go back in and have people pretend it doesn't exist...

OBVIOUSLY - Oswald went back in to that lunch room after Stanton saw him because Carolyn Arnold saw him in there...

So it makes it unlikely Oswald was hopping between floors from the 12:24 time Arnold saw him and the 12:31 time Baker & Truly saw him...

Oswald wasn't on the front steps during the shooting nor was he in the Sniper's Nest...

He was in the 2nd floor lunch room where the witnesses saw him and he told Fritz (whom the Commission quickly cut-off and got him back on the cover story when he testified it...A sure sign of guilt)...

Online Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #494 on: January 02, 2020, 04:56:07 PM »
That's why Oswald probably heard or saw Jarman and Norman coming up the elevator...

It is frustrating as a researcher to discover serious new evidence of Sarah Stanton seeing Oswald outside the 2nd floor lunch room intending to go back in and have people pretend it doesn't exist...

OBVIOUSLY - Oswald went back in to that lunch room after Stanton saw him because Carolyn Arnold saw him in there...

So it makes it unlikely Oswald was hopping between floors from the 12:24 time Arnold saw him and the 12:31 time Baker & Truly saw him...

Oswald wasn't on the front steps during the shooting nor was he in the Sniper's Nest...

He was in the 2nd floor lunch room where the witnesses saw him and he told Fritz (whom the Commission quickly cut-off and got him back on the cover story when he testified it...A sure sign of guilt)...

Doyle,

Who forced Arnold to say that she thought she'd seen Oswald through the glass on the first floor while she was standing outside a minute or two before the motorcade passed by?

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #495 on: January 02, 2020, 05:13:38 PM »
That's why Oswald probably heard or saw Jarman and Norman coming up the elevator...

It is frustrating as a researcher to discover serious new evidence of Sarah Stanton seeing Oswald outside the 2nd floor lunch room intending to go back in and have people pretend it doesn't exist...

OBVIOUSLY - Oswald went back in to that lunch room after Stanton saw him because Carolyn Arnold saw him in there...

So it makes it unlikely Oswald was hopping between floors from the 12:24 time Arnold saw him and the 12:31 time Baker & Truly saw him...

Oswald wasn't on the front steps during the shooting nor was he in the Sniper's Nest...

He was in the 2nd floor lunch room where the witnesses saw him and he told Fritz (whom the Commission quickly cut-off and got him back on the cover story when he testified it...A sure sign of guilt)...

Oswald wasn't on the front steps during the shooting nor was he in the Sniper's Nest...

You're right Doyle.....  Lee was not in the imaginary, stage prop" Sniper's Nest " at the time the shots were fired.    And Lee himself told the interrogators that he was on the first floor in the lunchroom (Domino Rom) at the time the president passed by.   I've long wondered if Lee said anything about hearing an explosion while he was there?...  I would guess that he did not hear any of the explosions.    Jack Dougherty, who was inside the building at the rear of the fifth floor, said that he heard only  a single explosion from somewhere above.    Lee Oswald was at the NE corner of the first floor in the Domino Room so it's quite probable that he didn't even hear the one explosion that Jack Dougherty heard.
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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #496 on: January 02, 2020, 05:38:44 PM »
Oswald wasn't on the front steps during the shooting nor was he in the Sniper's Nest...

You're right Doyle.....  Lee was not in the imaginary, stage prop" Sniper's Nest " at the time the shots were fired.    And Lee himself told the interrogators that he was on the first floor in the lunchroom (Domino Rom) at the time the president passed by.   I've long wondered if Lee said anything about hearing a explosion while he was there?...  I would guess that he did not hear any of the explosions.    Jack Dougherty, who was inside the building at the rear of the fifth floor, said that he heard only  a single explosion from somewhere above.    Lee Oswald was at the NE corner of the first floor in the Domino Room so it's quite probable that he didn't even hear the one explosion that Jack Dougherty heard.

Walter,

Oswald, being a very honest person, must have been telling the truth.

LOL

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #497 on: January 02, 2020, 06:07:36 PM »
Walter,

Oswald, being a very honest person, must have been telling the truth.

LOL

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Lee was merely relating events that he recalled..... Fritz claimed that he asked Lee where he was at the time the President was shot.

I believe that Fritz was lying....  He actually asked Lee where he was when the president passed by the TSBD. ( as it says in his scribbled notes)    No trained detective would reveal WHY a suspect was being interviewed by asking a suspect where he was when the murder occurred.

Fritz asked Lee where he was when the president passed by....and Lee replied that he was in the Domino Room eating his lunch.   When Fritz asked him if he could verify his whereabouts he recalled that he saw a couple of fellow employees ( Jarman & Norman) pass by the room while he was eating his lunch.
 

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #498 on: January 02, 2020, 06:19:05 PM »
At The Education Forum, Lance Payette has made several excellent points regarding Lee Harvey Oswald's so-called "Domino Room Alibi". If you'd like to take a gander, here's the link....  http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/26009-who-was-mrs-robert-reid/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-406382
Excellent points ...oh brother :-\
I thought we couldn't link up to that forum but apparently we can.
This Lance Payette fellow seems to consider himself quite the master of the topic...
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We know Oswald was an incredible, bald-faced l-i-a-r in almost every conceivable situation
"We know"--All Payette knew, is what he read in the fairy tale Warren Report just like all the other Oswalddidits :-\   

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #499 on: January 02, 2020, 06:20:59 PM »
Lee was merely relating events that he recalled..... Fritz claimed that he asked Lee where he was at the time the President was shot.

I believe that Fritz was lying....  He actually asked Lee where he was when the president passed by the TSBD. ( as it says in his scribbled notes)    No trained detective would reveal WHY a suspect was being interviewed by asking a suspect where he was when the murder occurred.

Fritz asked Lee where he was when the president passed by....and Lee replied that he was in the Domino Room eating his lunch.   When Fritz asked him if he could verify his whereabouts he recalled that he saw a couple of fellow employees ( Jarman & Norman) pass by the room while he was eating his lunch.

"Walt",

That's right!

Oswald, like Scott Peterson, had no reason to lie!

--  MWT  ;)

 

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