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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #390 on: September 24, 2019, 02:31:45 AM »
Sure, hon.

Bettina is not your “hon” or your “sweetheart”, you pig.

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #390 on: September 24, 2019, 02:31:45 AM »

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #391 on: September 24, 2019, 05:07:15 AM »
People are ignoring that Sarah Stanton saw Oswald outside the 2nd floor lunch room itching to get back in there.

Well, here's another lie that can be added to Doyle's list of lies. Sarah Stanton never stated she saw Oswald in her FBI testimony. Sarah Stanton testified that she never even saw Oswald that day. Why are you lying again Doyle?

Sarah Stanton: (3-18-64 statement to the FBI, 22H675) “I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day.”

There it is folks, right there in Sarah Stanton's official FBI testimony. Stanton clearly states: "I did not see Lee Harvey Oswald at that time or at any time during that day."...So, Doyle makes up a blatant lie that Stanton saw Oswald 'itching' to get back in the lunch room. This is fraudulent and we should ignore Doyle's lies. What do you have to say about that Doyle?   
 

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #392 on: September 24, 2019, 06:10:38 AM »
Bettina is not your “hon” or your “sweetheart”, you pig.

John,

She's very lucky, indeed, that I call her that, given the fact she threatened to, in so many words, puncture my throat with her stiletto heel.

By the way, why did you post a few months ago that the three people on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film might be men with their trousers tucked into their high, skin-colored boots?

Have you edited or deleted that post yet?

And why did you accuse me of posting those two photos of guys wearing Bermuda shorts-- six really cute models wearing them in fine weather in one, and one poor smuck wearing them in the snow in the other?

What was the point you were trying to make by your doing so?

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« Last Edit: September 24, 2019, 10:28:01 AM by Thomas Graves »

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« Reply #392 on: September 24, 2019, 06:10:38 AM »

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #393 on: September 24, 2019, 08:39:11 AM »
Sure, hon.

It was well-written, concise, and, unlike many posts on this forum  (take yours,for example), informative-in-nature and easy to understand.

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You're nicer to Doyle. Think about that

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #394 on: September 24, 2019, 09:40:00 AM »
What, quote the report again so you can ignore it again?

You’ve provided no evidence for this claim.

You have every opportunity to take up a tape measure and try to debunk me.


I've had this since September 12th: It changes nothing. The bag was measured on an estimation by Randle.

Since when have you ever found estimations to be good enough.
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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #395 on: September 24, 2019, 10:05:53 AM »
Only because I'm kind of stuck with the "12:15 PM" time you've placed on Rowland's observation of Rifle Man. But I think a better chronology is probably to move up Rowland's 12:15 Rifle Man sighting to right after Givens cigarette trip and just before Williams arrives on 6th floor.

But we must always remember that all "witness times" are approximate times. They're not written in stone. And it's not reasonable to assume that EVERY witness nailed their times right to the minute.

And, as I said previously, it's possible Oswald needed to go back down to the first floor a little later than 12:15 and then return to his Nest. We'll never know for sure.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/oswald-timeline-part-1.html

Well.....come on LN's

Anyone have any evidence to back David's "better chronology"?

Rowland clearly places the timing of the gunman on the 6th floor at about1 2.15pm.

Mr. SPECTER - When, after you first observed him did you have a conversation about him with your wife?
Mr. ROWLAND - Right afterwards. There was--just before I observed him there was a police motorcycle parked just on the street, not in front of us, just a little past us, and the radio was on it giving the details of the motorcade, where it was positioned, and right after the time I noticed him and when my wife was pointing this other thing to me, I don't remember what that was, the dispatcher came on and gave the position of the motorcade as being on Cedar Springs. This would be in the area of Turtle Creek, down in that area.

A timeline of the Presidential Motorcade taken from Dallas Police Radio logs indicates the The Motorcade got to Turtle Creek at 12.14 and Cedar Springs at 12.16pm.

Now some Harold Norman....

AFFIDAVIT
State of Texas
County of Dallas
City of Dallas
I Harold Norman, wish to make the following statement to Special Agents William Carter and Arthur W. Blake, United States Secret Service.
I am 25 years of age, and I live at 4858 Beulah Street, Dallas, Texas. I do not have a telephone at my residence. I have been employed as an order filler at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas for about three years.
I was acquainted with Lee Oswald during the time that he was employed at this company, but I never did get to know him well. I have spoken to him briefly to say "Hello" or in connection with my work, but I never carried on any conversations with him. He did not mix with the employees and did not appear to want to make friends with me or any of the others. I never saw him at any time other than in the building at work.
On the 22nd of November, 1963, to the best of my memory, the last time I saw him was about 10:00 A.M. when we were both working on the first floor of the building. I did not speak to him at that time.
About 12:15 P.M. on this same date, after I had eaten my lunch, I went to the fifth floor of the building to watch the parade of the President pass the building. Bonnie Ray Williams and James Jarman, who also worked at this building went with me. We took a position in the south-east corner of the building on the fifth floor and I was looking out the window which is closest to the east end of the building overlooking Elm Street.
Just after the President passed by, I heard a shot and several seconds later I heard two more shots. I knew that the shots had come from directly above me, and I could hear the expended cartridges fall to the floor. I also could hear the bolt action of the rifle. I saw some dust fall from the ceiling of the fifth floor and I felt sure that whoever had fired the shots was directly above me. I saw all of the people down on the street rut towards the west side of the building, so I went to that side with Williams and Jarman, and looked out the west side window. We discussed the shots, and where they had come from and decided we better go down stairs. We walked down the stairs to the first floor and did not see anyone else on the stairway as we went down. From the time of the shots until we started down-stairs was about five minutes.
I have read over the above statement and it is the truth to the best of my knowledge.
/s/Harold Norman
Harold Norman
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 4th day of December, 1963.
s/William N. Carter
William N. Carter, Special Agent U.S. Secret Service

A few more days pass and still nada from any LN to support the notion that the gunman was sighted after the arrival of Jarman and Norman on the 5th floor.

I propose we all agree that the evidence submitted so far supports their arrival after Rowland saw the gunman in the SW window of the 6th floor of the TSBD. Particularly as it relates to the original post.

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #396 on: September 24, 2019, 10:31:49 AM »
You're nicer to Doyle. Think about that

Dear Kleinschmidt,

Maybe it's because Brian doesn't threaten me with physical violence, and because we actually agree on four or five things.

Ponder that.

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #397 on: September 24, 2019, 01:29:34 PM »
She's very lucky, indeed, that I call her that, given the fact she threatened to, in so many words, puncture my throat with her stiletto heel.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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By the way, why did you post a few months ago that the three people on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film might be men with their trousers tucked into their high, skin-colored boots?

Why no, Thomas, I didn’t. That was your ridiculous made up BS because you can’t have a discussion like a normal human being.

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And why did you accuse me of posting those two photos of guys wearing Bermuda shorts-- six really cute models wearing them in fine weather in one, and one poor smuck wearing them in the snow in the other?

I didn’t accuse you of posting any such photos. Again, that was something you made up because you can’t have a discussion like a normal human being.

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What was the point you were trying to make by your doing so?

Those stilettos are sounding nicer and nicer.
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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #397 on: September 24, 2019, 01:29:34 PM »

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #398 on: September 24, 2019, 01:36:01 PM »
You have every opportunity to take up a tape measure and try to debunk me.

a) you haven’t demonstrated squat
b) there’s no need to “debunk” you. Randle already has.

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I've had this since September 12th: It changes nothing. The bag was measured on an estimation by Randle.

“In accordance with Mrs Randle’s observations”.

The bag you allegedly measured was on your estimation of a bag you never even saw. Randle wins.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2019, 01:37:31 PM by John Iacoletti »

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #399 on: September 24, 2019, 01:38:11 PM »
Well.....come on LN's

Anyone have any evidence to back David's "better chronology"?

Rowland clearly places the timing of the gunman on the 6th floor at about1 2.15pm.

Mr. SPECTER - When, after you first observed him did you have a conversation about him with your wife?
Mr. ROWLAND - Right afterwards. There was--just before I observed him there was a police motorcycle parked just on the street, not in front of us, just a little past us, and the radio was on it giving the details of the motorcade, where it was positioned, and right after the time I noticed him and when my wife was pointing this other thing to me, I don't remember what that was, the dispatcher came on and gave the position of the motorcade as being on Cedar Springs. This would be in the area of Turtle Creek, down in that area.

A timeline of the Presidential Motorcade taken from Dallas Police Radio logs indicates the The Motorcade got to Turtle Creek at 12.14 and Cedar Springs at 12.16pm.

Now some Harold Norman....

AFFIDAVIT
State of Texas
County of Dallas
City of Dallas
I Harold Norman, wish to make the following statement to Special Agents William Carter and Arthur W. Blake, United States Secret Service.
I am 25 years of age, and I live at 4858 Beulah Street, Dallas, Texas. I do not have a telephone at my residence. I have been employed as an order filler at the Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas for about three years.
I was acquainted with Lee Oswald during the time that he was employed at this company, but I never did get to know him well. I have spoken to him briefly to say "Hello" or in connection with my work, but I never carried on any conversations with him. He did not mix with the employees and did not appear to want to make friends with me or any of the others. I never saw him at any time other than in the building at work.
On the 22nd of November, 1963, to the best of my memory, the last time I saw him was about 10:00 A.M. when we were both working on the first floor of the building. I did not speak to him at that time.
About 12:15 P.M. on this same date, after I had eaten my lunch, I went to the fifth floor of the building to watch the parade of the President pass the building. Bonnie Ray Williams and James Jarman, who also worked at this building went with me. We took a position in the south-east corner of the building on the fifth floor and I was looking out the window which is closest to the east end of the building overlooking Elm Street.
Just after the President passed by, I heard a shot and several seconds later I heard two more shots. I knew that the shots had come from directly above me, and I could hear the expended cartridges fall to the floor. I also could hear the bolt action of the rifle. I saw some dust fall from the ceiling of the fifth floor and I felt sure that whoever had fired the shots was directly above me. I saw all of the people down on the street rut towards the west side of the building, so I went to that side with Williams and Jarman, and looked out the west side window. We discussed the shots, and where they had come from and decided we better go down stairs. We walked down the stairs to the first floor and did not see anyone else on the stairway as we went down. From the time of the shots until we started down-stairs was about five minutes.
I have read over the above statement and it is the truth to the best of my knowledge.
/s/Harold Norman
Harold Norman
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 4th day of December, 1963.
s/William N. Carter
William N. Carter, Special Agent U.S. Secret Service

A few more days pass and still nada from any LN to support the notion that the gunman was sighted after the arrival of Jarman and Norman on the 5th floor.

I propose we all agree that the evidence submitted so far supports their arrival after Rowland saw the gunman in the SW window of the 6th floor of the TSBD. Particularly as it relates to the original post.

Seems the OP has lurked and left the thread again. Still looking for something to justify his better sequence no doubt. I guess the LN team has nothing to rebut with.

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #399 on: September 24, 2019, 01:38:11 PM »

 

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