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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #288 on: September 21, 2019, 09:40:46 AM »
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A challenge to the LN team....

Assemble here all the evidence you can find that places Jarman and Norman's arrival on the 5th floor prior to Rowland's observation of a 6th floor gunman.

Go for it.....don’t let David dangling.

So far.....the combined efforts are?

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #288 on: September 21, 2019, 09:40:46 AM »


Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #289 on: September 21, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
So far.....the combined efforts are?

Upstart Crow,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene%27s_Groats-Worth_of_Wit

Why are you so impatient?

Not everyone is an insomniac like you and I.

--  MWT  ;)
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #290 on: September 21, 2019, 10:53:50 AM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm#upper

EXCERPTS:

Mrs. Carolyn Walther was interviewed by the FBI on December 4, 1963, and stated that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street.(10) After the ambulance left with the epileptic, Mrs. Walther looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor; according to the FBI report, Mrs. Walther was "positive" the window as being the "most easterly" on the south side of the building.(12)

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle.(16)

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.(18)

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>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.



 
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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #291 on: September 21, 2019, 11:04:05 AM »
Upstart Crow,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene%27s_Groats-Worth_of_Wit

Why are you so impatient?

Not everyone is an insomniac like you and I.

--  MWT  ;)

See...there's this thing called timezones......

Why do you think I suffer from insomnia? Assume much?

Sorry to disturb your bliss.

Lost the plot, Graves?
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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #292 on: September 21, 2019, 11:33:41 AM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm#upper

EXCERPTS:

Mrs. Carolyn Walther was interviewed by the FBI on December 4, 1963, and stated that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street.(10) After the ambulance left with the epileptic, Mrs. Walther looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor; according to the FBI report, Mrs. Walther was "positive" the window as being the "most easterly" on the south side of the building.(12)

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle.(16)

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.(18)

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>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.



Mrs. Walther told the FBI that almost immediately after she saw the second man in the window, the presidential motorcade approached on Houston Street.(19)

You dropped this from your cut and paste Bill. Intentional?

In answer to your question.....a successful one it seems. One that "exposed" himself with weapon in hand 15 minutes before the arrival of the target.

Also....

"In an FBI interview on December 5, 1963, Mrs. Ruby Henderson related that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Elm Street "just north of Houston Street."(1) She said that right after an ambulance left the area with a man who had suffered an epileptic seizure, she looked up at the Texas School Book Depository; she Saw two men in the window on one of the upper floors.(2) She could not recall exactly which floor they were on, but stated that she did not recall seeing any other persons on any floors above the two men.(3)."

Note again both Walther and Henderson reference Belknap's seizure.....a key point for determining timing.
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #293 on: September 21, 2019, 03:57:19 PM »
See...there's this thing called timezones......

Why do you think I suffer from insomnia? Assume much?

Sorry to disturb your bliss.

Lost the plot, Graves?

Why are you so impatient, Mr. Attitude?

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #294 on: September 21, 2019, 04:20:39 PM »
>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.

This is the same Bill Chapman who gets righteously indignant if you question a single thing that Howard Brennan claimed.

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« Reply #294 on: September 21, 2019, 04:20:39 PM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #295 on: September 21, 2019, 05:19:07 PM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm#upper

EXCERPTS:

Mrs. Carolyn Walther was interviewed by the FBI on December 4, 1963, and stated that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street.(10) After the ambulance left with the epileptic, Mrs. Walther looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor; according to the FBI report, Mrs. Walther was "positive" the window as being the "most easterly" on the south side of the building.(12)

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle.(16)

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.(18)

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>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.



>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.


If the man appeared to be a "Security Guard"....and was dressed in light colored khaki clothing like a sheriff's deputy, then he wouldn't have been concerned about being seen.  (Several witnesses said that they thought the man was a "Security Guard")