The "Domino Room Alibi"

[Walt Cakebread]

His T-shirt wasn't "dark". And there are witnesses who said Oswald often worked in only his T-shirt.

Oswald (IMO) probably shot JFK while wearing just his white T-shirt. His brown "arrest" shirt was likely lying at his feet in the Nest (or on a box nearby). Oswald then used the brown shirt as a fingerprint-wiping rag as he raced to the northwest corner of the TSBD after the final shot. He then put the brown shirt on as he was quickly descending the stairs to the 2nd floor---leaving the shirt unbuttoned (see Marrion Baker's testimony; with Baker mistaking the shirt for a jacket).

A desperate and ridiculous reply.... Not worth responding to....

[David Von Pein]

Mr Jarman was referring to the ENTIRE period of time from when he and Norman departed the front of the TSBD (at 12:25), and the time they arrived on the fifth floor (12:28).

You're just making this up as you go along, it would seem. Jarman didn't say he GOT UP TO the fifth floor at 12:28. You're just assuming that's what he meant.

[John Iacoletti]

Cakebread naturally totally ignores Norman's "12:15 PM" estimate and will rely only on James Jarman's timeline

Fortunately as Colin has pointed out, we can timestamp when the motorcade got to Main Street which Norman said they got the news of before they went back into the building.

but Jarman's 12:25-12:28 time was a time when Jarman and Norman were just getting on the elevator to go up to the 5th floor. So, given that fact, we can be pretty certain that Jarman's estimate of the time being as late as "12:28" is very likely not accurate. It was a bit earlier than that, otherwise J&N would probably have not gotten up there by exactly 12:30.

Just how long do you think it would take to ride the elevator up to the 5th floor?

[David Von Pein]

Oswald (IMO) probably shot JFK while wearing just his white T-shirt. His brown "arrest" shirt was likely lying at his feet in the Nest (or on a box nearby). Oswald then used the brown shirt as a fingerprint-wiping rag as he raced to the northwest corner of the TSBD after the final shot. He then put the brown shirt on as he was quickly descending the stairs to the 2nd floor---leaving the shirt unbuttoned (see Marrion Baker's testimony; with Baker mistaking the shirt for a jacket).

A desperate and ridiculous reply.... Not worth responding to....

Not desperate.
And not ridiculous in the slightest.

IOW---It's a perfectly reasonable assessment of what LHO did on 11/22/63.

[David Von Pein]

Just how long do you think it would take to ride the elevator up to the 5th floor?

In those old clunky freight elevators? I have no idea. But probably longer than you or Walt think.

[John Iacoletti]

His T-shirt wasn't "dark".

It wasn’t khaki either.

And there are witnesses who said Oswald often worked in only his T-shirt.

What about the witnesses who saw a man in a brown sport coat?

[Walt Cakebread]

In those old clunky freight elevators? I have no idea. But probably longer than you or Walt think.

Jarman and Norman heard a police radio give the location of the motorcade and knew the motorcade would probably arrive at the TSBD in about 5 minutes...

The motorcade was at the location given in the broadcast at 12:25..... And they departed immediately for the fifth floor....That would have had them passing through the first floor by the Domino room at about 12:26 / 12:27....