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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #176 on: September 16, 2019, 12:20:35 AM »
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How about those Russkies Thomas. Have they landed yet? Have you seen any?

It's like I said, Bill:

If you haven't noticed, the Kremlin won the Cold War.

Are you a Trump supporter, by any chance?

QAnon?  Pizzagate?

It doesn't matter, the Far-Left is just as brainwashed as the Far-Right.

Heck, even James "Jumbo Duh" DiEugenio at the so-called Education Forum is a Trump supporter.

LOL

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« Reply #177 on: September 16, 2019, 01:06:08 AM »
From memory Frazier asked Shelley if the 6th floor crew could break early for lunch that day.

Can anyone confirm? I can’t find it in his testimony.

Can anyone else recall this? Perhaps it was in one of his numerous interviews........

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #178 on: September 16, 2019, 01:21:13 AM »
How about those Russkies Thomas. Have they landed yet? Have you seen any?

Yeah, in Trump's Oval Oriface, numbering amongst them a top Russian spy I heard. No press allowed...

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #179 on: September 16, 2019, 01:27:04 AM »
Yeah, in Trump's Oval Oriface, numbering amongst them a top Russian spy I heard. No press allowed...

Bill,

Nah, he's probably just a "useful idiot".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #180 on: September 17, 2019, 10:42:09 PM »
For the sake of argument, even if all three of the individuals being discussed in the "Domino Room Alibi" discussion (Jarman, Norman, and Oswald) were, in fact, together at the same time in or near the Domino Room on the first floor of the Book Depository Building shortly before JFK was killed on 11/22/63, that fact most certainly does not exonerate Lee Harvey Oswald as President Kennedy's assassin.

Why?

Because we know that two of those three people—James Jarman Jr. and Harold Norman—were present on the south side of the fifth floor of the TSBD at the time of the assassination. They were photographed by Tom Dillard just seconds after the last shot was fired.

Therefore, since we know that Jarman and Norman had the capability of getting from the first-floor Domino Room to an upper floor of the Depository prior to the time when President Kennedy arrived at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets, then why wouldn't Lee Harvey Oswald have possessed that same capability?


I agree that when Norman and Jarman could make it to the 5th floor, Oswald could indeed have made it to the 6th. But IMO there are two flaws in this reasoning. First of all, we now know that the motorcade was running late. At the time it happened, the shooter wouldn't and couldn't have known that. So, for the shooter to show up on the 6th floor just prior to 12.30 pm seems an unlikely scenario. Even more so as witnesses said that they saw movement in the window from 12.15 pm, which would make a lot more sense as it computes far better with the scheduled time the motorcade was due to pass by the TSBD. It obviously doesn't compute well with a scenario in which Oswald stays in the Domino room until just prior to 12.30 pm

James Jarman Jr. and Harold Norman—were present on the south side of the fifth floor of the TSBD at the time of the assassination. They were photographed by Tom Dillard just seconds after the last shot was fired.

seconds after the last shot was fired  ....???.

Seconds after the last shot was fired the three stooges were excitedly jabbering away and trying to figger out what was happening in the railroad yard ( the crowd along Elm Street were looking and pointing to that area) I believe the Dillard photo was taken DURING the shooting.....  as evidenced by the fact that none of the three show any sign of alarm.....  ( they haven't yet responded to the shots)


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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #181 on: September 19, 2019, 05:39:34 AM »

I agree that when Norman and Jarman could make it to the 5th floor, Oswald could indeed have made it to the 6th. But IMO there are two flaws in this reasoning. First of all, we now know that the motorcade was running late. At the time it happened, the shooter wouldn't and couldn't have known that. So, for the shooter to show up on the 6th floor just prior to 12.30 pm seems an unlikely scenario. Even more so as witnesses said that they saw movement in the window from 12.15 pm, which would make a lot more sense as it computes far better with the scheduled time the motorcade was due to pass by the TSBD. It obviously doesn't compute well with a scenario in which Oswald stays in the Domino room until just prior to 12.30 pm.


What time was the limo supposed to arrive at the Trade Mart?

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #182 on: September 19, 2019, 06:08:50 AM »
What time was the limo supposed to arrive at the Trade Mart?

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At 12:30

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #183 on: September 19, 2019, 06:58:58 AM »
At 12:30

Fwiw, the invitations to the luncheon say "at twelve noon". 

Was tlhat when the guests were supposed to arrive, or maybe when they started letting the guests go in?

https://www.jfkmemorabilia.com/kennedy-trade-mart-assassination-invitation-postmark.html

How late was JFK's limo running when it reached the TSBD?

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The motorcade was scheduled to enter Dealey Plaza at 12:10 p.m., followed by a 12:15 p.m. arrival at the Trade Mart.

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If true, then even person whom witnesses claimed to have seen in the sixth floor window from 12:15 on would have missed his big opportunity if the motorcade had been on time.

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