Dark Complected Man outside TSDB?

[James Hackerott]

Absolutely no problem Sim.

[James Hackerott]

Here are shadow studies for two of the Tramps photos. I get similar results of 2:15-2:25 pm for the timing. It would be great, and appreciated, if anyone interested and in Dealey Plaza on a sunny day close to November 22 would take photos of the pergola at intervals around 2:00-2:20 for comparison with the simulations. My attempts to use the Houston street street light shadow are not working well. Partially, I think there is some leaning of that tall pole that so far I've not modeled correctly.
 
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In the upper left corner we see most of the north pergola. We are concerned with the forward vertical column just to the right of the Thornton sign and the next column to the right (east). The western column is totally in shadow, while the eastern column's face is fully sunlit. The closeup animation below runs from 1-3pm. There is a narrow range of 2:15-2:25pm that is consistent with the tramp photo.


(having a problem getting a photo loaded - will try tomorrow)
At left center the north reflection pool's north wall shows a number of  cutouts. We see the shadow line running diagonally almost, but not quite, touching the cutout's bottom. A closeup animation of the cutout shadow runs from 1-3pm.  I've re-positioned the virtual camera somewhat from what I used for the previous collage.This analysis is more subjective than the pergola shadows above, but still is consistent with a 2:15 or little later imo.

[Sim Heninger]

(having a problem getting a photo loaded - will try tomorrow)

The cutouts are visible in the tramps/cops photo posted by Robert on 9/8, if that's the one you're referring to.

This is offthread, but I've always thought the timing of the Charles Bronson film of the ambulance, which shows the so-called Oswald window minutes before the motorcade arrived, could be timed by the shadow of the Records Building on the Dal-Tex.

Wonderful work, James.

Sim

[Robert Reeves]

Could the Dorman film shadow positioning be of any use? it's in the same area of one of the tramps photos

[James Hackerott]

The cutouts are visible in the tramps/cops photo posted by Robert on 9/8, if that's the one you're referring to.

This is offthread, but I've always thought the timing of the Charles Bronson film of the ambulance, which shows the so-called Oswald window minutes before the motorcade arrived, could be timed by the shadow of the Records Building on the Dal-Tex.

Wonderful work, James.

Sim

Sim, try this link. I think I had this issue trying to embed imagery form my Google Drive.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/The_Three_Tramps.jpg

And below is a reworked animation taken from a better angle. I hope this works.

James

[Sim Heninger]

Sim, try this link. I think I had this issue trying to embed imagery form my Google Drive.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/The_Three_Tramps.jpg

And below is a reworked animation taken from a better angle. I hope this works.

James

Yes, it does work, James.  All of your graphics indicate a time of 2:15 give-or-take for when the tramps were marched across to the sheriff's office. That is more consistent with witness accounts I've come across.

Sim

 

[Sim Heninger]

It's this pic @ Royell? one of the Mentesana frames

Her's a link to a Skaggs closeup of the man with the beret in the rifle group...not DCM.  The phot's from Robin's Gallery.

Sim