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Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1030 on: October 24, 2019, 05:08:13 PM »
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The JFK research community has members with the skill to figure out what time the Cooper film with Mrs Reid headed across the street with the other employees is but they don't pursue it...Because of the dysfunction of that community they prefer to let things like that lie...

If it proves that Mrs Reid never went inside then the only alternative is the yearbook/Stanton album Jeraldean Reid was the women who saw Oswald and spoke to Karen Westbrook...It is pure dysfunction for no one to ask Westbrook...I find Moricet less than forthcoming on this and Zambanini to be hiding behind a screen and not helping...

Didn't one of our members look at the shadows and say it was about 10 minutes after the assassination?

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« Reply #1031 on: October 24, 2019, 05:56:01 PM »

Hackerott said 25 minutes after...

If so that is highly suspicious because Westbrook said Mrs Reid was with them when they were detained in the 2nd floor offices...

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« Reply #1032 on: October 24, 2019, 06:15:50 PM »
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Didn't one of our members look at the shadows and say it was about 10 minutes after the assassination?
See post #999
It appears to me that the sidewalk crowd shoo-away took place as early as 12:50 but before 1pm. Compare the TSBD SE corner shadow with a 3D simulation. It looks like the Imgur link is working now:



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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1033 on: October 24, 2019, 06:46:26 PM »
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Hackerott said 25 minutes after...

If so that is highly suspicious because Westbrook said Mrs Reid was with them when they were detained in the 2nd floor offices...

Westbrook didn't say that they were detained in the 2nd floor offices.  You made that up.

There's still ZERO evidence that the women in the Cook film is named Reid.

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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1034 on: October 24, 2019, 07:33:12 PM »
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Well, sport, "youse guys" have been rather hard to miss! Ubiquity on steroids....not to mention, clueless!

Single-handedly, I ended some of this insanity. However, unlike author Janney, youse (unholy trinity) are a much tougher (acutely deluded)
"nut" to crack. What makes youse tick? Who cares!

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meanwhile.......  i still say prayerdude was a guy off the street, looking for a nice shot with his camera (do you see what i see?).  and i still think oswald killed kennedy and tippit, and he almost shot walker, and he almost killed himself (too bad he messed that one up, huh?)  oswald and booth and sirhan and and......

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« Reply #1035 on: October 24, 2019, 08:43:36 PM »

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Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1036 on: October 25, 2019, 01:47:55 PM »
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Hackerott said 25 minutes after...

If so that is highly suspicious because Westbrook said Mrs Reid was with them when they were detained in the 2nd floor offices...

Given the fact Karen Westbrook couldn't remember that during the motorcade she was standing between a journalist (Maggie Brown) to her left, and her all-in-white colleague Carol Reed to her right (and that she couldn't remember that she wasn't wearing a raincoat, etc, etc, etc), why should we trust her memory on anything?

When did Westbrook say this, btw?  1963?  1964?  2017?

Did Westbrook even know Mrs. Robert A. Reid (aka Jeraldean Reid)?

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PS  Imho Geneva Hine doesn't sound all that sure of herself in her Warren Commission testimony when she says Mrs. Robert Reid was in the group of four or five people who came into the office several minutes after the assassination.
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« Reply #1036 on: October 25, 2019, 01:47:55 PM »

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« Reply #1037 on: October 25, 2019, 03:32:06 PM »
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Given the fact that Karen Westbrook couldn't remember that, instead of standing next to Gloria Calvery during the motorcade, she was standing between a journalist (Maggie Brown) to her left, and a short unidentified headscarf-wearing woman wedged-in sideways to her right, and near her all-in-white colleague Carol Reed to her right (and that she couldn't remember that she wasn't wearing a raincoat, etc, etc, etc), why should we trust her memory on anything?

Because your wild-ass guesses about where she was standing are less reliable.

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« Reply #1037 on: October 25, 2019, 03:32:06 PM »

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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1038 on: October 25, 2019, 09:24:09 PM »
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John,

Given the fact that Karen Westbrook couldn't remember that, instead of standing next to Gloria Calvery during the motorcade, she was standing between a journalist (Maggie Brown) to her left, and a short unidentified headscarf-wearing woman wedged-in sideways to her right, and near her all-in-white colleague Carol Reed to her right (and that she couldn't remember that she wasn't wearing a raincoat, etc, etc, etc), why should we trust her memory on anything?

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Because your wild-ass guesses about where she was standing are less reliable.




John,

How so?

As we can see in the Christmas Party photos, Gloria Calvery was a very large, tall gal, and we already know that she always wore largish black-framed glasses.  The very large, tall gall who's wearing a black blouse and a black headscarf in Zapruder was also "caught" in Betzner-3, and you yourself labeled her "Glasses Woman" because you evidently didn't want to admit that she was wearing a black blouse and a black headscarf in that photo.  Until, of course, you realized that Calvery always wore glasses.  LOL

We know that the four women standing to the left of the four consecutive headscarf-wearing gals in Zapruder were journalists at the Dallas Morning News newspaper, and we know that Calvery, Hicks, Reed and Westbrook told the FBI that they watched the motorcade together at a spot on the north side of Elm Street, about halfway between Houston Street and the Triple Underpass.

If Calvery, Hicks, Reed and Westbrook aren't those four headscarf-wearing gals standing "shoulder to shoulder" on the north side of Elm Street in Zapruder, then where are they?

And how do you reconcile yourself to the fact that your and Westbrook's "Uhhh ... possibly Carol Reed, definitely Gloria Calvery, and definitely me, Karen Westbrook!" were caught on film by Tina Towner's father as they were walking across the Pergola Patio a few minutes after the assassination?

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Re: Mrs Robert Reid
« Reply #1039 on: October 25, 2019, 09:55:01 PM »
Since it now appears that the location of Mrs Robert A.Reid is in question and that the woman seen beside Mr.Campbell in the Wiegman film may NOT BE the same woman with white scarf, heavy set,older woman in the Couch film

and because there is at least about 20 seconds of time lapse between Weigmans film and Couch film capturing the front steps in the camera perspective,
(but may be a mistaken established time, due to inconsistency of Wiegmans film having been stopped approx 15 seconds post last shot fired (from when he jumped from his car at 2nd or 3rd shot fire)

and since in Couch film, Mr Campbell can be seen running in the background past the Stemmons freeway sign, when Couch film pans down Elm st., and also, Wiegman himself is seen on the GK in the background having just stopped his camera after filming briefly the Hester couple hiding in the Pegola structure at 15 sec post last shot fired

Then it is entirely possible that Mrs Reid DID in fact leave when she thought she did, which is

A. When she saw people BEGINNING to fall, which is about 3 sec post shots, given the Newmans on the GK, given Hudson on the GK steps, given the man behind Altgens diving to ground, which is seen in Z film

B. Right after Mr Campbell has left her.

Now the question: WHEN did Mr Campbell leave Mrs  Reid?

Answer: According to Mr Campbell statements, he moved from his Elm st curb position next to Mrs Reid, not later than 5 sec post shots, otherwise, Mr.Campbell would not have been able to have seen JFK limo "speed away".

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