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Online Thomas Graves

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2019, 04:04:55 AM »
none of them were taken by a person sitting on that box.

THAT'S The point I was trying to make....   Lee Oswald ( nor anybody else)  did NOT sit on a box and use the stack of Rolling Readers as a rifle rest....

But that is contrary to what the liars who framed Lee told the gullible public....

Walter,

Maybe you don't "get" it.

Irrespective of the crease in the box and the positioning of a box the sniper probably sat on (but did not shoot from) while waiting for the motorcade to make its appearance at Main and Houston, the evidence indicates the the three shots were fired from that window.

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
Walter,

Maybe you don't "get" it.

Irrespective of the crease in the box and the positioning of a box the sniper probably sat on (but did not shoot from) while waiting for the motorcade to make its appearance at Main and Houston, the evidence indicates the the three shots were fired from that window.

-- MWT  ;)

Thomas...  The  police "investigators" used the stack of boxes and the crease on the top box as evidence that supported their tale that Lee Oswald had used the stack of boxes to steady his deadly accurate rifle with a telescopic sight ( which was mounted askew).

The trusting, and gullible and grieving, public accepted the tale because they had no way of knowing that the act attributed to Lee Oswald was physically impossible, because the 5'9" Lee Oswald could not have sat on a box to the rear of the stack of Rolling Readers and placed the carcano on the stack of boxes and declined the muzzle down onto Elm street.    And the Carcano does not have anything on the bottom of the stock that would create a groove (scar) on the top of the box , nor is the carcano a heavy recoil rifle ( The recoil is probably less than one inch ...depending on the size and strength of the shooter)   I believe there is a youtube video of a man firing a carcano while holding it in one hand like a pistol)       

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2019, 05:29:15 PM »
Thomas...  The  police "investigators" used the stack of boxes and the crease on the top box as evidence that supported their tale that Lee Oswald had used the stack of boxes to steady his deadly accurate rifle with a telescopic sight ( which was mounted askew).

The trusting, and gullible and grieving, public accepted the tale because they had no way of knowing that the act attributed to Lee Oswald was physically impossible, because the 5'9" Lee Oswald could not have sat on a box to the rear of the stack of Rolling Readers and placed the carcano on the stack of boxes and declined the muzzle down onto Elm street.    And the Carcano does not have anything on the bottom of the stock that would create a groove (scar) on the top of the box , nor is the carcano a heavy recoil rifle ( The recoil is probably less than one inch ...depending on the size and strength of the shooter)   I believe there is a youtube video of a man firing a carcano while holding it in one hand like a pistol)       

Dear Walter,

Are you saying that it was physically impossible for Oswald to have fired three shots at JFK from that window?

How the heck do you know the sniper didn't put a crease in that box with his or her hand before testing its practicality while sitting on that comfy, comfy box and realizing that it wasn't such a good idea, after all?

LOL

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2019, 10:19:08 PM »
Dear Walter,

Are you saying that it was physically impossible for Oswald to have fired three shots at JFK from that window?

How the heck do you know the sniper didn't put a crease in that box with his or her hand before testing its practicality while sitting on that comfy, comfy box and realizing that it wasn't such a good idea, after all?

LOL

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Are you saying that it was physically impossible for Oswald to have fired three shots at JFK from that window?

Of course not!..... I'm clearly stating that it was impossible for any 5' 9" man to sit on a box and rest a rifle on the stack of Rolling Readers, and DECLINE the muzzle low enough to shoot JFK down on Elm street in front of the TSBD.

How the heck do you know the sniper didn't put a crease in that box with his or her hand before testing its practicality while sitting on that comfy, comfy box and realizing that it wasn't such a good idea, after all?

That's NOT what the cops said he did....They said that he rested the cacano on the stack of boxes and fired down onto Elm street and murdered President Kennedy.

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 11:33:58 PM »
Are you saying that it was physically impossible for Oswald to have fired three shots at JFK from that window?

Of course not!..... I'm clearly stating that it was impossible for any 5' 9" man to sit on a box and rest a rifle on the stack of Rolling Readers, and DECLINE the muzzle low enough to shoot JFK down on Elm street in front of the TSBD.

How the heck do you know the sniper didn't put a crease in that box with his or her hand before testing its practicality while sitting on that comfy, comfy box and realizing that it wasn't such a good idea, after all?

That's NOT what the cops said he did....They said that he rested the cacano on the stack of boxes and fired down onto Elm street and murdered President Kennedy.

Oh, I see, so you believe everything the "cops" said was 100% true and accurate then, it should be taken as gospel. Does that extend to everything written in the WR as well? Perhaps Caprio was right all along, you are a closet LN. LOL
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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2019, 04:03:00 AM »
No, I think what he’s saying is that the alleged “crease in the box where a rifle might have lain” was a flight of fancy.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2019, 02:43:49 PM »
No, I think what he’s saying is that the alleged “crease in the box where a rifle might have lain” was a flight of fancy.

That's correct.   The police saw the Smoker's Nook and imagined it to be a "Sniper's Nest".   They supported that imaginary idea by imagining that the sniper had sat on a box to the rear of the stack of Rolling Readers and used the stacked Rolling readers as a steady rest for his rifle.  And they imagined that the crease on the top box was created by the recoil of the rifle.

And that's what they told us trusting peasants....( LBJ called us pissants) ....   We had no way of knowing that the tale was physically impossible.

A 5'9" man sitting on a 12 inch box would have his shoulder about 32 inches from the floor ....  The Rolling readers were stacked about level with the shoulder of a 5'9" man sitting on a box.   The angle to the car ( according to page 100 of the WR) was nearly 27 degrees.)  27 degrees from the top of the Rolling Readers is about 52 inches up from the floor at a point 3 feet to the rear of the boxes, but a 5'9 inch man's shoulder would be about 32 inches up from the floor.

A 5'9" man holding a rifle resting on the Rolling Readers could not decline the muzzle of the rifle down onto Elm street...   THAT is a fact.
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2019, 04:34:35 PM »
No, I think what he’s saying is that the alleged “crease in the box where a rifle might have lain” was a flight of fancy.

Yeah, I kinda realised that. I just like winding ole Walt up a bit. The crease? It could have been caused by anything.

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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2019, 06:31:05 PM »
Yeah, I kinda realised that. I just like winding ole Walt up a bit. The crease? It could have been caused by anything.

Yes of course, you're right,  the crease could have been caused in any number of ways..... BUT..That's NOT what the cops speculated...They imagined that the crease was created by the recoil of a rifle....  Apparently, you understand the absurdity  of the speculation.

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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2019, 06:49:23 PM »
That's correct.   The police saw the Smoker's Nook and imagined it to be a "Sniper's Nest".   They supported that imaginary idea by imagining that the sniper had sat on a box to the rear of the stack of Rolling Readers and used the stacked Rolling readers as a steady rest for his rifle.  And they imagined that the crease on the top box was created by the recoil of the rifle.

And that's what they told us trusting peasants....( LBJ called us pissants) ....   We had no way of knowing that the tale was physically impossible.

A 5'9" man sitting on a 12 inch box would have his shoulder about 32 inches from the floor ....  The Rolling readers were stacked about level with the shoulder of a 5'9" man.   The angle to the car ( according to page 100 of the WR) was nearly 27 degrees.)  27 degrees from the top of the Rolling Readers is about 52inches up from the floor at a point 3 feet to the rear of the boxes, but a 5'9 inch man's shoulder would be about 32 inches up from the floor.

A 5'9" man holding a rifle resting on the Rolling Readers could not decline the muzzle of the rifle down onto Elm street...   THAT is a fact.

I think your Smoker's Nook solves the problem of people thinking they smelled gunpowder: It was actually pot wafting out that window downrange. That's why people called it the 'grassy' knoll... which in turn suggests a renaming of Dealey Plaza to MaryJane Plaza  ;)

Cite where LBJ called us pissants
He was talking about Vietnam
LBJ called Vietnam a "damn little pissant country"
Look it up

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