Author Topic: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?  (Read 13904 times)

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #150 on: September 16, 2019, 09:37:44 AM »
    In order to put Darnell in position to film the Sitzman interview, You are being extremely liberal with your 10-15 Minutes after the Kill Shot time stamping of the Towner footage showing the Pergola. Your 10-15 minute time stamping does Not fit the time stamping Towner herself applied to her own footage. Also, I find it difficult to understand why a seasoned film journalist such as Darnell would elect to stand there and film a possible Sitzman Interview when he himself had No means to also record the accompanying Verbiage. All hell is unfolding around Darnell, yet he slams on the brakes and instead chooses to film what amounts to a Fractured Flicker interview?  Highly, Highly, unlikely and simply Not in step with Darnell being almost consistently In Motion from the time the Kill Shot was fired.

Maybe he intuited that she was telling a reporter or an FBI agent what she had seen and heard, realized that she had had an excellent view of the assassination, thought that what she was telling him might be kinda interesting, and decided to mosey on over to them and do a little simultaneous eavesdropping and filming?

How much time do you figure he spent with them, anyway?

An hour?

Two?

LOL

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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #151 on: September 16, 2019, 04:39:08 PM »
Maybe he intuited that she was telling a reporter or an FBI agent what she had seen and heard, realized that she had had an excellent view of the assassination, thought that what she was telling him might be kinda interesting, and decided to mosey on over to them and do a little simultaneous eavesdropping and filming?

How much time do you figure he spent with them, anyway?

An hour?

Two?

LOL

--  MWT  ;)

       Has anyone Ever viewed the Entire Sitzman Interview or even Know with certainty how long it lasted?  All we ever see is an extremely quick video snippet or still frame. Zapruder possibly being visible in Any portion of this Sitzman interview would impact his accepted timeline. This would include the timeline of Zapruder bumping into Harry McCormick.

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #152 on: September 17, 2019, 03:53:42 AM »

Seriously, Iacoletti, have you always had as hard a time telling women from men as you're having with those three people on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film?

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Can you post the pictures again

Thanks

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #153 on: September 17, 2019, 05:00:16 AM »
Can you post the pictures again

Thanks

Bill,

Which "pictures" are you referring to?

Iacoletti and I have argued about several people in a lot of photos, frames, and films.

Big, tall Gloria Calvery (and her three headscarf-wearing colleagues -- Karan Hicks, Carol Reed and Karen Westbrook -- to her immediate left in Zapruder) ?

Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons by the Stemmons sign in Zapruder (Iacolett's and Westbrook's "... uh ... probably Carol Reed, definitely Gloria Calvery, and definitely me, Karen Westbrook!") ?

The three people on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film?  (Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons, aka Iacoletti's "blobs" or "men wearing Bermuda shorts") ?

-- MWT  ;)

PS  He and I haven't argued about Jane Berry, Betty Thornton, and Peggy Burney (the original subjects of this thread) for the simple reason that I haven't been able to identify them yet!

One thing's for sure, though, they certainly aren't the women Robin Unger or Don Roberdeau mislabled several years ago (Hicks, Reed and Westbrook).  LOL


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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #154 on: September 17, 2019, 05:52:27 AM »
Go to page 21 to see the photo he posted of some male models wearing Bermuda shorts.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1780.200.html


And scroll down the first page of this thread to see the three people on the Pergola Patio he thinks might be  dudes wearing Bermuda shorts:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1303.0.html

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #155 on: September 17, 2019, 04:30:37 PM »
I never said that your Towner blobs might be dudes wearing Bermuda shorts.  You made that up.

Have the Russkies landed yet?

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #156 on: September 17, 2019, 04:41:24 PM »

I never said that your Towner blobs might be dudes wearing Bermuda shorts.  You made that up.


Iacoletti,

Why, then, did you post a photo of guys wearing Bermuda shorts on a thread in which you had already stated, in so many words, that the images of the three people on the Pergola Patio in the Towner film were so "blobish" that not only could it not be determined whether or not they were the three women standing by the Stemmons sign in Zapruder, but whether or not they were even women?

Of course you didn't outright say it. You're far too clever for that.

But you certainly insinuated it with that photo and, after I'd pointed out that it was a cool and blustery day in late November, another photo showing a guy wearing Bermuda shorts in the snow.

LOL

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #157 on: September 17, 2019, 05:39:08 PM »
Of course you didn't outright say it.

You're damn right I didn't.

I'm not going down your endless rabbit-holes of insinuations again.  You cannot prove that the Towner blobs are who you want them to be.  Period.

Let it go.

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #158 on: September 17, 2019, 05:46:21 PM »
You're damn right I didn't.

I'm not going down your endless rabbit-holes of insinuations again.  You cannot prove that the Towner blobs are who you want them to be.

Iacoletti,

The funny thing is that you, for some strange reason, don't even want them to be women.

Because if you were to admit that they're women, it would put even more pressure on you to admit that the one on the right is not only wearing a headscarf, but a headscarf the same color that your and Westbrook's "Westbrook" by the Stemmons sign in Zapruder is wearing.

And then you have the damn gall to claim it was I who posted those photos of those guys wearing Bermuda shorts?

LOL

-- MWT  :D

PS  The results on your poll are now 7 yes, 3 no (one of which was undoubtedly cast out of pure spite by my nemesis, "Mike" Clark), and one weasley undecided.



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #159 on: September 17, 2019, 07:08:15 PM »
Enough of your lies!  I didn't claim you posted any photos of guys wearing Bermuda shorts.  Seriously Tommy, let it go.  Trying to engage with your blatant dishonesty is futile.

 

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