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Author Topic: Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?  (Read 4768 times)

Online John Iacoletti

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Hahahahahaha! Preaching to the choir much? Hahahahaha!

Right?

This is the guy who has created multiple threads and polls and continues to post obsessively about these "trivial details".

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Online Brian Doyle

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Where Were Jane Berry, Betty Thornton and Peggy Burney During the Motorcade?
« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2019, 11:05:56 PM »

It has long been established that the women labeled by Karen Westbrook as Calvery and herself in the Zapruder film are Sharon Simmons and Gloria Holt...This was proven when the same ladies were seen over on the Grassy Knoll still together in a close up taken by Darnell...Holt's brother identified the woman Westbrook called Calvery as being his sister Gloria...And any look at the woman Westbrook calls herself shows right away that she is not the heavier red haired Westbrook as seen in the Depository Christmas photos...

There's no reason to take anyone who denies this seriously or respond to their posts...

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It has long been established that the women labeled by Karen Westbrook as Calvery and herself in the Zapruder film are Sharon Simmons and Gloria Holt...

It has not been "established" at all, much less "long established".  It amounts to a giant guessing game.

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This was proven when the same ladies were seen over on the Grassy Knoll still together in a close up taken by Darnell...

Bull.  It hasn't been proven in any way that it's the "same ladies" in Darnell.

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There's no reason to take anyone who denies this seriously or respond to their posts...

There's no reason to believe anything said by the guy with 429 falsehoods and fabrications.

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... But her identification of herself carries more weight than some conclusion that you made by squinting at some blurry images.

"Identified herself" from the backside of a headscarf in Zapruder and in the Willis image, actually famous among buffs for being blurred, that includes virtually no facial features.  That's heavy sure enough, but that air of self importance because of just being there and now, part of living history, is adorable no?

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"Identified herself" from the backside of a headscarf in Zapruder and in the Willis image, actually famous among buffs for being blurred, that includes virtually no facial features.  That's heavy sure enough, but that air of self importance because of just being there and now, part of living history, is adorable no?

Well put, Barry.

How did Karen Westbrook "identify" herself in the Zapruder film 1) from behind, 2) at a considerable distance from from the camera, 3) while wearing a headscarf, 4) fifty-five years after the fact?

Answer: By confusing Gloria Holt's strawberry-blond hair with Gloria Calvery's dark red hair, and mistaking Sharon Simmon's "Baby Boy Blue"-colored headscarf for her own lighter-blue one.

Those two unfortunate juxtapositions evidently cast a voodoo spell on her, and smilin' and noddin' Stephen Fagin of the The Sixth Floor Museum certainly didn't help, and may have even pushed her in that direction.

-- MWT   ;)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 11:57:40 PM by Thomas Graves »

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How did Karen Westbrook "identify" herself in the Zapruder film 1) from behind, 2) at a considerable distance from from the camera, 3) while wearing a headscarf, 4) fifty-five years after the fact?

Because she was there, knew her coworkers, and knew where she stood and with whom.  Tommy, on the other hand, was not there, knows nobody, and has to rely on his own ignorant opinion based on squinting at blurry images and pretending that he sees things.

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Because she was there, knew her coworkers, and knew where she stood and with whom.  Tommy, on the other hand, was not there, knows nobody, and has to rely on his own ignorant opinion based on squinting at blurry images and pretending that he sees things.

Iacoletti,

Although Zapruder's camera was some distance from dark-complected Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Holt, and "Baby-Boy-Blue" headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons -- i.e., your "uhh ... maybe Carol Reed, definitely Gloria Calvert [sic], and me, Karen Westbrook!" --, the images in his film are sharp and clear and it's easy to see how (see my previous post, above) your beloved Westbrook was so horribly mistaken during her 2017 Sixth Floor Museum interview with Stephen "Smilin' n' Noddin'" Fagin.

--  MWT  ;)
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 01:34:52 AM by Thomas Graves »

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Although Zapruder's camera was some distance from dark-complected Stella Mae Jacob, strawberry-blond Gloria Holt, and "Baby-Boy-Blue" headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons -- i.e., your "uhh ... maybe Carol Reed, definitely Gloria Calvert [sic], and me, Karen Westbrook!" --, the images in his film are sharp and clear and it's easy to see how (see my previous post, above) your beloved Westbrook was so horribly mistaken during her 2017 Sixth Floor Museum interview with Stephen "Smilin' n' Noddin'" Fagin.

Claiming over and over again that you are correct doesn't actually make you correct.

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Claiming over and over again that you are correct doesn't actually make you correct.

Iacoletti,

It doesn't make me incorrect, either.

Why do you claim over and over that it's impossible to tell if the three people walking across the Pergola Patio in the Towner film are women, or bermuda shorts-wearing men?

--  MWT  ;)
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 07:13:01 PM by Thomas Graves »

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It doesn't make me incorrect, either.

So why do you persist in stating your "could be correct, could be incorrect" wild-ass guesses as facts?

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Why do you claim over and over that it's impossible to tell if the three people walking across the Pergola Patio in the Towner film are women, or bermuda shorts-wearing men?

I never said anything about bermuda shorts.  That was your exercise in make-believe.  Your blobs aren't women just because you want them to be women.

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