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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #88 on: March 12, 2018, 11:22:23 PM »
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Strange that the later photo of Oswald (the one on the right) shows him with much thicker sideburns that the earlier one. How often does that happen?

And the younger Oswald has much larger ears than the older one on the right.




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Strange that the later photo of Oswald (the one on the right) shows him with much thicker sideburns that the earlier one. How often does that happen?

Wow, your first attempt of refutation is that Oswald had a haircut!?

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And the younger Oswald has much larger ears than the older one on the right.

As Bill has already mentioned Oswald's ears are 3D shapes and will have a different appearance due to the camera angle.
Another consideration is that the camera distance will also have a effect




But anyway enough of the petty observations and let's get down and dirty with how likely it is to find an exact double.



In the following comparison we see an Obama dead ringer that won a lookalike competition, in the here and now with access to such a large sample base finding close lookalikes must be far easier than the FBI/CIA searching for a double in the 1950's.



But a closer analysis shows a multitude of flaws, the eyes are a different distance apart, the ears are a different shape, the facial laugh lines show a different life, the cheekbones are higher, the forehead is wider and the overall head shape is not the same.



This Matt Damon impersonator is very close but again upon closer examination the differences are obvious.



The eyes again are a different distance apart, the ears go inwards, the lips are more poutier, the forehead has a bony protrusion, he has a broken nose, the front teeth are relatively moved about 2mm to his left and his chin is a lot wider.




Conclusion.

Finding a double with the following level of precision would have to be impossible.





JohnM



« Last Edit: March 17, 2018, 02:12:39 AM by John Mytton »

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2018, 03:06:19 AM »



Wow, your first attempt of refutation is that Oswald had a haircut!?

As Bill has already mentioned Oswald's ears are 3D shapes and will have a different appearance due to the camera angle.
Another consideration is that the camera distance will also have a effect




But anyway enough of the petty observations and let's get down and dirty with how likely it is to find an exact double.



In the following comparison we see an Obama dead ringer that won a lookalike competition, in the here and now with access to such a large sample base finding close lookalikes must be far easier than the FBI/CIA searching for a double in the 1950's.



But a closer analysis shows a multitude of flaws, the eyes are a different distance apart, the ears are a different shape, the facial laugh lines show a different life, the cheekbones are higher, the forehead is wider and the overall head shape is not the same.



This Matt Damon impersonator is very close but again upon closer examination the differences are obvious.



The eyes again are a different distance apart, the ears go inwards, the lips are more poutier, the forehead has a bony protrusion, he has a broken nose, the front teeth are relatively moved about 5mm to his left and his chin is a lot wider.




Conclusion.

Finding a double with the following level of precision would have to be impossible.



JohnM

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2018, 02:10:40 AM »
Thanks John, I'll post this over at EF.




No worries, here's the latest off the wall theory, that this guy isn't Oswald because the teeth look wrong.



But a direct comparison with the dug up Oswald again presents a perfect match, even though the following sets of teeth were photographed at slightly different angles it's clear that Oswald's teeth were uniquely asymmetrical with off center front teeth which along with the shape, position and angle of each of Oswald's sawtooth like teeth can only possibly be Oswald.









JohnM

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2018, 08:21:49 PM »
"perfect match".  LOL.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #92 on: August 25, 2018, 09:59:12 PM »
While looking for some early Oswald photos it seems that for whatever reason he was reluctant to give a big toothy grin, in fact he mainly covered his top teeth with his top lip. A habit that followed him into adulthood.  Oswald is again pulling his top lip over his top teeth and what we see is just shadows inside his mouth.
So I made a quick morph and it becomes obvious to me that in the classroom photo we can see Oswald straining his top lip over his gums and teeth to bring his lip forward.
Kinda like this................................

 
 
So, I guess the historical records are wrong then, and this is not really Lee Oswald.
 
 

 

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2018, 10:05:51 AM »

 
 
So, I guess the historical records are wrong then, and this is not really Lee Oswald.
 

Considering the change of angle, the match of tooth size and overall spacing is virtually identical.





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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #94 on: August 26, 2018, 03:02:44 PM »
Another example of the LNer doing the necessary science and analysis, in response to yet another casually-tossed-out off-the-cuff gut-feeling CT claim.

Funny how some CTs claim their group are the ones more interested in research, analysis and satisfying curiosity.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #95 on: August 26, 2018, 10:07:46 PM »
 
Considering the change of angle, the match of tooth size and overall spacing is virtually identical.
Now we have a resident forensic dentist in our midst!
 And a rush to kudos from his com-padres.
Loves the word virtual -----
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almost, nearly, close to, verging on, just about, essentially,  roughly, approximately
But not exactly....not precisely matching.
Nice try though................