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Online Richard Smith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #440 on: August 11, 2019, 04:33:36 PM »
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Now you are a witness to seeing something? Did you change your name? No one saw LHO bring a rifle into the TSBD. That is just something you'll have to struggle with. I can't help you if you can't help yourself. You can't figure out the silly photos.

No one saw anyone bring a rifle into the TSBD.  Yet it was there.  So we know that someone did.  Oswald was in the process of committing a crime.  He took measures to avoid being seen carrying a rifle into the building.  Like wrapping it up in a paper bag and then hiding it.  You appear to be suggesting that unless a witness had x-ray vision then it can't be proven that Oswald carried the rifle.  Absurd. How do we know it was him?  He carried a long package into work that morning then lied about it.  A long bag was found next to the SN with his prints. The rifle found in the building had the same serial number as the one ordered under an alias that Oswald used.  It was sent to his PO Box.  His prints were on that rifle.  It can't be linked to any other person.  He is pictured holding it.  His wife confirms he owned a rifle and that it was stored in the Paine's garage.  There is no accounting for that rifle except as the one found in the TSBD.  It is a slam dunk.  Difficult to understand how there could possibly be anymore evidence than exists to link Oswald to the rifle. 

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #441 on: August 11, 2019, 05:29:05 PM »
Now you are a witness to seeing something? Did you change your name? No one saw LHO bring a rifle into the TSBD. That is just something you'll have to struggle with. I can't help you if you can't help yourself. You can't figure out the silly photos.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #442 on: August 11, 2019, 08:59:51 PM »
Please don't breed

I think he already has with Mick O'Brien, which probably explains why their posts and writing 'styles' are so similar. Unless of course.....

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #443 on: August 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM »
John,

Dang-nabbit, I guess it was curtain rods, after all.

-- MWT  :(

Dagnabbit

At least according to Yosemite Sam

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #444 on: August 11, 2019, 10:04:17 PM »
No need.  Frazier was quite clear when he spoke to Tom Meros.

Tom Meros: And when he walked on ahead of you could you even see the package?
Buell Frazier:  No
Tom Meros: Unless you knew it was there, you wouldn't know what to look for.  You wouldn't even know that he had a package in his hand.
Buell Frazier: That is correct.


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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #445 on: August 11, 2019, 10:15:19 PM »
Question: Was a group of un-packaged curtain rods found in the TSBD? How about a rifle, still broken-down or ... otherwise?

Not that there’s any record of.

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Question: Was a homemade paper bag that could have contained either of those things found in the sixth floor "sniper's nest" after the assassination?

A bag or wrapper of some kind was found somewhere. Where it was found and when is a matter of debate. But Frazier was quite clear that it wasn’t the same bag he saw.

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Question:  Does the fact that neither did Frazier see (from some distance away and from behind) a longish package in one of Oswald's hands when he (Oswald) entered the building, nor did Jack "I Got A Real Sketchy Memory When I'm Nervous" Dougherty remember seeing Oswald with a package, somehow prove (to your satisfaction, anyway) that Oswald did not enter the building with said package --

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Oswald entered the building with a package?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #446 on: August 11, 2019, 10:19:31 PM »
In short, I find Iacoletti impossible to debate on a common "horse sense," shared-understanding-of-the-common-meanings-and-significations-of-words-and-phrases level.

You misspelled horsesh*t.

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He seems to be on an "Exoneration Of Oswald At All Costs" mission, and therefore seems to be more than willing to ignore the common meanings of words and phrases used by certain witnesses in their testimonies and FBI statements when he shortsightedly THINKS it suits his purpose to do so.

I have no need or desire to exonerate anyone. On the other hand, you seem determined to convict Oswald — even if you have to make up evidence to do so.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #447 on: August 11, 2019, 10:35:49 PM »
No, he was watching them switch the train cars.

Did Frazier say he didn't look at Oswald again until he arrived at the door?
No, he watched Oswald enough to realize that he was getting further and further away.

And watching the trains doesn't rule out a Frazier head-angle that could be at a shallow angle off-plumb, with Oswald well-within his peripheral vision. The corner of his eye, and all that.

Someone intent on ditching that package is hardly going to do it in front of a person walking only 50' (at best) behind him.


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