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Online Thomas Graves

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #520 on: August 14, 2019, 01:39:36 AM »
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Memo to Graves:



Iacoletti,

What's that moving around on my screen?

(Like you, all I can see are blobs.)

Is it ... gasp ... a guy ... wearing a Baby Boy Blue-colored headscarf and real dark-colored Levis tucked, very GQ-like, into his very high, Tony Lama flesh-colored cowboy boots?

Someone you filmed during your most-recent full-moon ritual in the garden?

What in the world is it?

OMG -- The Evil, Evil, Evil CIA Mastermind???

Please help me out here, John!

-- MWT   ;)



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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #521 on: August 14, 2019, 01:57:00 AM »
You can always tell when a CTer starts running scared.  They trot out things like "burden of proof" and "convincing a jury beyond a reasonable doubt."  When does this fantasy trial begin?  Until then we need only look to the evidence to reach conclusions about what likely happened as normal people do when assessing any other event in human history.  There is no "burden of proof" outside the criminal justice system which is designed to protect the rights even of the guilty.  Fifty plus years after Oswald's death, the only issue is what happened.  Not whether he would be convicted in a trial where there is a presumption of innocence.  That's the stuff of lazy contrarians playing defense attorney in their mother's basement instead of making an honest assessment of the facts and evidence.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #522 on: August 14, 2019, 02:09:28 AM »
Didn't Delphine Roberts (and her daughter) claim that Bannister and Oswald were acquainted?
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #523 on: August 14, 2019, 04:24:46 AM »
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You can always tell when a CTer starts running scared.  They trot out things like "burden of proof" and "convincing a jury beyond a reasonable doubt."  When does this fantasy trial begin?  Until then we need only look to the evidence to reach conclusions about what likely happened as normal people do when assessing any other event in human history.  There is no "burden of proof" outside the criminal justice system which is designed to protect the rights even of the guilty.  Fifty plus years after Oswald's death, the only issue is what happened.  Not whether he would be convicted in a trial where there is a presumption of innocence.  That's the stuff of lazy contrarians playing defense attorney in their mother's basement instead of making an honest assessment of the facts and evidence.

Until then we need only look to the evidence to reach conclusions about what likely happened as normal people do when assessing any other event in human history.

So, if two people have a different opinion about what likely happened, who, according to you, would be the "normal" one? Let me guess, the one that agrees with you, right?

There is no "burden of proof" outside the criminal justice system which is designed to protect the rights even of the guilty.

True... so let's just cherry pick the evidence and jump to a conclusion and be done with it, right?

Fifty plus years after Oswald's death, the only issue is what happened.

True again… so how do we determine what actually happened or should we just take your word for it?

instead of making an honest assessment of the facts and evidence.

How in the world are you even remotely qualified to make a determination of what an "honest assessment of the facts and evidence" would be?

Or is this just your way of saying that if somebody doesn't agree with your opinion he's simply not making such an "honest assessment"?



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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #524 on: August 14, 2019, 05:56:59 AM »
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And they made that poor Frank Olson guy take, like, three ounces of it and jump out of a window, didn't they?

And, according to Douglas Valentine ...
   The government admitted that Olson had been dosed with LSD, without his knowledge, nine days before his death. After the family announced they planned to sue the Agency over Olson's "wrongful death," the government offered them an out-of-court settlement of $1,250,000, later reduced to $750,000, which they accepted. The family received apologies from President Gerald Ford and then-CIA director William Colby.

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« Reply #525 on: August 14, 2019, 01:58:29 PM »
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   The government admitted that Olson had been dosed with LSD, without his knowledge, nine days before his death. After the family announced they planned to sue the Agency over Olson's "wrongful death," the government offered them an out-of-court settlement of $1,250,000, later reduced to $750,000, which they accepted. The family received apologies from President Gerald Ford and then-CIA director William Colby.

Dear Peter,

Oh well, stuff happens.

At least they didn't dose him with Novichok, Dioxin, or Polonium Tea.

-- MWT  ;)

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #526 on: August 14, 2019, 04:51:57 PM »
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There is no "burden of proof" outside the criminal justice system which is designed to protect the rights even of the guilty.

You have just confirmed your utter ignorance.  Any truth claim has a burden of proof associated with it.  The fact that you are trying to sidestep the burden of proving your own many claims about the evidence shows how profoundly bankrupt your position is.

This is Logic 101, "Richard".

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #527 on: August 14, 2019, 04:53:41 PM »
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How in the world are you even remotely qualified to make a determination of what an "honest assessment of the facts and evidence" would be?

"Richard" is the guy who keeps bleating "he was photographed with the rifle" over and over again.

"Honest assessment" my aunt Fanny.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #528 on: August 14, 2019, 08:41:53 PM »
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"Richard" is the guy who keeps bleating "he was photographed with the rifle" over and over again.

"Honest assessment" my aunt Fanny.

 ???

He wasn't photographed with a Carcano?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #529 on: August 14, 2019, 08:53:07 PM »
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???

He wasn't photographed with a Carcano?

How would he know that this is a Carcano at all, much less THE Carcano (the one allegedly found on the sixth floor)?  Or that the Carcano allegedly found on the sixth floor is even the murder weapon for that matter.

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