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Offline John Mytton

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CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« on: June 20, 2019, 12:57:35 AM »
I recently have been getting reacquainted with the OJ case and it left me wondering how would JFK CT's handle the Oswald conspiracy in court?

To win the OJ case the "Dream Team" capitalized on the alleged racist atmosphere of LA, so the "Dream Team" invented a reasonably plausible alternative narrative, whereas the JFK CT's have given us virtually nothing?

Who planted what and why? What did they have to gain?

The prosecution would be presenting evidence piled on evidence and eyewitness after eyewitness, and in return what would the JFK CT's present and where do your theories go?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 02:59:27 AM »
Gee, would that mean prosecutors could finally cross-examine some called by the defense team:

     Witnesses
  • Sam Holland
  • Wesley Buell Frazier
  • Victoria Adams
  • Jean Hill
  • Acquilla Clemons
  • Lee Bowers
  • George de Mohrenschildt     
  • Rose Cheramine
  • Joseph Milteer
  • The Three Tramps

       
     Experts
  • Penn Jones Jr
  • Harold Weisberg
  • Jack White
  • Robert Groden
  • David Lifton
  • Cyril Wecht
  • James H. Fetzer
  • Ralph Stinky
  • Robert Prudhomme   
  • Jesse Ventura

The hypothetical trial would be such that all those mentioned were alive and available.

Who can ever forget Groden at the OJ Civil Trial.

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 12:08:14 PM »
"The Ruskies hypnotized him and made him do it, Your Honor."

"And ... and ... and ... uhh ... BESIDES THAT HE HADN'T GOTTEN LAID IN A COON'S AGE."

-- MWT  ;)
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 12:13:08 PM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Charles Collins

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 01:05:29 PM »
LHO would have most likely had his day in court relatively soon after the crime as compared to today's world. I watched the mock trial they produced in April of 1964 recently. In that one they stood mute (which legally meant he pleaded not guilty) and also plead the insanity plea. That was probably his only hope of avoiding the electric chair.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 05:05:04 PM »
I recently have been getting reacquainted with the OJ case and it left me wondering how would JFK CT's handle the Oswald conspiracy in court?

To win the OJ case the "Dream Team" capitalized on the alleged racist atmosphere of LA, so the "Dream Team" invented a reasonably plausible alternative narrative, whereas the JFK CT's have given us virtually nothing?

Who planted what and why? What did they have to gain?

The prosecution would be presenting evidence piled on evidence and eyewitness after eyewitness, and in return what would the JFK CT's present and where do your theories go?

JohnM

The racism in Dallas and the whole South at the time was massive, it was a powder keg, with bombings etc, this was number one motive as was the fact that J.F.K was a Catholic and this stood to ruin the US UK special relationship and and most importantly a new foreign policy direction.
 If Milteers prediction could have been presented, along with the possibility that another firing point was available, to still carry the same line of fire., and with Oswald himself put into the witness box, to tell us exactly where he was for the shooting, he would have been acquitted.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 08:36:43 PM by Michael O'Brian »

Online Richard Smith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 03:31:05 PM »
OJ was from a different era with a sympathetic jury.  Oswald was the most hated man in America and the evidence was overwhelming against him.  A 1964 Texas jury convicts him a thousand times out of a thousand.  Oswald's best legal advice would have been to plead guilty in return for no death penalty.  Something akin to what James Earl Ray did.  The only question is whether Oswald wanted a show trial to espouse his grievances.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 04:35:42 PM »
OJ was from a different era with a sympathetic jury.  Oswald was the most hated man in America and the evidence was overwhelming against him.  A 1964 Texas jury convicts him a thousand times out of a thousand.  Oswald's best legal advice would have been to plead guilty in return for no death penalty.  Something akin to what James Earl Ray did.  The only question is whether Oswald wanted a show trial to espouse his grievances.

A 1964 Texas jury convicts him a thousand times out of a thousand.

Showing off your amazing speculative powers again?

IMO A good defense team would have asked for a change of venue.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 05:35:36 PM »
The racism in Dallas and the whole South at the time was massive, it was a powder keg, with bombings etc, this was number one motive as was the fact that J.F.K was a Catholic and this stood to ruin the US UK special relationship and and most importantly a new foreign policy direction.
 If Milteers prediction could have been presented, along with the possibility that another firing point was available, to still carry the same line of fire., and with Oswald himself put into the witness box, to tell us exactly where he was for the shooting, he would have been acquitted.

Jeezzz, not again! Why don't you just post this BS: to every thread on the forum and be done with it.   

Online Richard Smith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 07:44:17 PM »
A 1964 Texas jury convicts him a thousand times out of a thousand.

Showing off your amazing speculative powers again?

IMO A good defense team would have asked for a change of venue.

LOL.  You would probably get a hung jury.  Half would want to hang Oswald and half would want to hang you.  A change of venue?  What for?  To find someone that didn't know about the assassination?  How about Mars?  That is comedy gold.   

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 07:52:07 PM »
LHO would have most likely had his day in court relatively soon after the crime as compared to today's world. I watched the mock trial they produced in April of 1964 recently. In that one they stood mute (which legally meant he pleaded not guilty) and also plead the insanity plea. That was probably his only hope of avoiding the electric chair.

An insanity defense would not have worked for Oswald.  In a criminal law context, a defendant can be held culpable under the M'Naghten rule if they can distinguish right from wrong (i.e. cognitive insanity).  Even if they are otherwise nuts.  And the most basic way to determine if someone can distinguish right from wrong is whether they took measures to conceal their actions.   There are any number of actions that Oswald took to conceal his intended actions beforehand along with his flight from the crime scene afterward which are all highly indicative of someone who knew they were committing a criminal act.

 

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