The number one CT nightmare question ...

[Bill Chapman]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

 

 

[Jack Trojan]

Nothing has changed here I see. The LNers are still totally focused on Oswald's guilt as a lone nut. But they're actually anti-CTers and there was NO CONSPIRACY to see here so move along! Conspiracy theorists are just tin-foil hat kooks, after all.

So if Oswald was not a lone nut shooter then the LNers' world goes kaput. But there are a few problems with that. Firstly, it is highly unlikely that Oswald could have disassembled then reassembled the rifle without leaving a single print on it. Secondly, it is highly unlikely that Oswald could have pulled off the head shot when the scope on his rifle was grossly misaligned. Thirdly, there is not a valid 3rd shot ballistic trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD, into JFK's back and out his throat at his location, otherwise, show us what that trajectory looks like. Fourthly, the magic bullet showing up on the wrong stretcher in pristine condition speaks for itself. Lastly, the 3rd shot could not have come from the MC because it exploded in JFK's head, which a full-metal jacketed bullet doesn't do. How much more do you LNers need to doubt that this was a conspiracy?

Conclusion: Oswald likely didn't fire a shot, therefore he must have been a patsy, which means this was a conspiracy. Given this premise, LNers need to free their minds, use some critical thinking and apply some logic to reach the same conclusions to see how this all must have played out.

[Denis Pointing]

Nothing has changed here I see. The LNers are still totally focused on Oswald's guilt as a lone nut. But they're actually anti-CTers and there was NO CONSPIRACY to see here so move along! Conspiracy theorists are just tin-foil hat kooks, after all.

So if Oswald was not a lone nut shooter then the LNers' world goes kaput. But there are a few problems with that. Firstly, it is highly unlikely that Oswald could have disassembled then reassembled the rifle without leaving a single print on it. Secondly, it is highly unlikely that Oswald could have pulled off the head shot when the scope on his rifle was grossly misaligned. Thirdly, there is not a valid 3rd shot ballistic trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD, into JFK's back and out his throat at his location, otherwise, show us what that trajectory looks like. Fourthly, the magic bullet showing up on the wrong stretcher in pristine condition speaks for itself. Lastly, the 3rd shot could not have come from the MC because it exploded in JFK's head, which a full-metal jacketed bullet doesn't do. How much more do you LNers need to doubt that this was a conspiracy?

Conclusion: Oswald likely didn't fire a shot, therefore he must have been a patsy, which means this was a conspiracy. Given this premise, LNers need to free their minds, use some critical thinking and apply some logic to reach the same conclusions to see how this all must have played out.

In other words, anyone that hasn't reached the same conclusion as you must be flawed in some way.      What an obnoxious, arrogant fool you are.

[Jerry Freeman]

In other words, anyone that hasn't reached the same conclusion as you must be flawed in some way. What an obnoxious, arrogant fool you are.

Is that what this forum has come to...calibrated viscous snipes? There was nothing obnoxious arrogant or foolish in the post. There wasn't anything stated there that hasn't been stated many times before.

[Jorn Frending]

Hello again dear forum members!

I admit to staying off the forum for often longer periods of time as many of us do 

I would like to know if there are still CT's who believe that Oswald could be TOTALLY innocent and could have been set up as a patsy without his whereabouts being controlled.

Would a big scale conspiracy allow for the possibility of Oswald being anywhere without his whereabouts being controlled also in the case of the Tipping shooting?

CT's should take this into consideration when elaborating on any theory as explained in the first post in this thread ...

[Jerry Freeman]

Hello again dear forum members!

I admit to staying off the forum for often longer periods of time as many of us do 

I would like to know if there are still CT's who believe that Oswald could be TOTALLY innocent and could have been set up as a patsy without his whereabouts being controlled.

Would a big scale conspiracy allow for the possibility of Oswald being anywhere without his whereabouts being controlled also in the case of the Tipping shooting?

CT's should take this into consideration when elaborating on any theory as explained in the first post in this thread ...

Coulda -woulda- shoulda

[Walt Cakebread]

Hello again dear forum members!

I admit to staying off the forum for often longer periods of time as many of us do 

I would like to know if there are still CT's who believe that Oswald could be TOTALLY innocent and could have been set up as a patsy without his whereabouts being controlled.

Would a big scale conspiracy allow for the possibility of Oswald being anywhere without his whereabouts being controlled also in the case of the Tipping shooting?

CT's should take this into consideration when elaborating on any theory as explained in the first post in this thread ...

Hi Jorn.....You asked...."I would like to know if there are still CT's who believe that Oswald could be TOTALLY innocent" and I would like to know if there are still CT's who believe that Oswald could be TOTALLY innocent and could have been set up as a patsy without his whereabouts being controlled.

I can only speak for myself, and I most emphatically believe hat Lee Oswald was simply a naive and trusting, ignorant patsy.   
and as for part two of the question .....could (he) have been set up as a patsy without his whereabouts being controlled.

This is a little hard to answer.....Obviously the conspirators had to have control over his movements to some degree.....But they couldn't have controlled him without his enthusiastic cooperation....  So they must have lead him to believe that he was involved in some patriotic endeavor that would have appealed to his ego, and his sense that he was a blooming Herb Philbrick. ( Based on his actions for the year prior to 11/22/63 we can be absolutely certain that he was presenting himself as a communist who admired Fidel Castro)    Therefore since he trusted those who were controlling him ( Hoover's Extra Special Agents) and was trying to gain entry to Fidel Castro's island bastion  he cooperated fully with them.   However.....Being the renegade that he was , he still wasn't 100% under their control.... because if he had been he would have been on the sixth floor as they had told him to be, and if he had been there , he would have been murdered on the sixth floor and his corpse along with the spent shells and the carcano would have been mute evidence that he had shot JFK......  He threw a monkey wrench into that machine by being on the first floor at the time of the murder of JFK.