The number one CT nightmare question ...

[Bill Chapman]

Not only that, but by definition, after-the-fact!

You gotta realize that the Dallas Police Department and/or the CIA and/or the FBI and/or military intelligence had updated-by-the-minute contingency plans for framing each and every employee at the TSBD (including that vicious little Vicki Adams) in case only one of 'em (by some fluke in statistical probability) showed up for work that morning, or if only one of 'em (by a different fluke in statistical probability) was out of view of all those dag-blasted cameras, and all those dag-blasted colleagues of their's, like EATIN' A CHEESE SANDWICH, HERMIT-LIKE, INSIDE THE BUILDING, from at least ten minutes before 12 noon (oops, looks like we're gonna have to change that to at least ten minutes before 12:31).

Oh yeah, and we're gonna have to make sure they can each one of 'em walk to 10th and Patton in time to shoot Officer Tippit (who'll be told as early as possible who to be on the lookout for) so we can frame 'em up real good n' proper ...

Oh yeah, and we're gonna have to make sure that each and every one of 'em looks as though they're a Castro-lovin' Communist so it'll look like he (Castro) done ordered the assassination, and then we can Invade Cuba and remove that S.O.B. from power, or, even better, nuke the mo-fo's and start the Nuclear Armeggedon and the Manifest Destiny that's been prophesized in the Old Testament since about 5,000 years after the Earth was formed, by God!

LOL

-- MWT 

The only thing framing the prime suspect was the SN window

[John Iacoletti]

In this thread we have shown that Oswald could not have been framed had he been totally oblivious of any event to take take place that day.

You haven't shown that in any way whatsoever.  You've just speculated on what you thought conspirators would do.

[John Iacoletti]

Iacoletti, are you claiming it's possible that sometime after the assassination within a day, they invented enough evidence to arrest Oswald for not one but two murders? WOW!

What makes you think there was enough evidence to arrest Oswald?

[John Iacoletti]

Iacoletti,

You didn't answer my question.

I don't answer loaded questions.  Have you stopped beating your wife?

Regardless, .... "tainted"?

How so?

Other than the fact that the lineups seemed a bit unfair, can you give me a few examples?

-- MWT 

Sure.  Here's just a few.

- Brennan's change of heart after failing to identify Oswald
- Brennan's alleged ability to see the head shot shooter from the waist up
- Alyea's description of Fritz tampering with the crime scene
- The long bag not appearing in crime scene photos
- Givens' later "recollection" of going back for his cigarettes and seeing Oswald on the 6th floor
- The magic partial palmprint
- No documented chains of custody for the magic bullet, the "limo fragments", the revolver, or the revolver shells
- The February Klein's deposit slip for an alleged March order
- The police "finding" bullets and bus transfer in Oswald's pockets hours after his arrest
- No mention of Oswald's alleged punch in the arrest report
- O.P. Wright's account of a pointed bullet at the hospital
- The Mauser reports
- Whaley's time sheet
- Altered hospital times for Tippit's death
- Drain's two contradictory reports on the characteristics of the paper bag
- The "steel-jacketed" Walker bullet.

[John Iacoletti]

Wrong again, Weidman.

(Are you Judge Judy, btw?)

Since Iacoletti had implied that the bad guys, having monitored Oswald closely both before and during the assassination (and thereby noticing that he hadn't gone out of the building so far as to actually get into the sunlight where he could really, really, really be "caught" on film and blow the "op"), decided they wouldn't have to quickly go to "Plan B" and start framing, immediately after-the-fact, Commie Joe Molina, or "Plan C" -- Big Jack Dougherty, or ..... "Plan Z" ... gasp ... that vicious little VICKI ADAMS, after all, and I was wondering how Iacoletti figured the bad guys (the evil, evil, evil DPD and/or the evil, evil, evil CIA and/or the evil, evil, evil FBI) had game-played out all those contingencies, you know, ahead of time, so to speak.

That's a cool story you made up.  But how exactly did I imply any of that?

[Bill Chapman]

What makes you think there was enough evidence to arrest Oswald?

What makes you think there wasn't?

[John Iacoletti]

What makes you think there wasn't?

Would you care to enumerate the evidence that gave the police probable cause to arrest him for murder at the time of his arrest?

[John Mytton]

I don't answer loaded questions.  Have you stopped beating your wife?

Sure.  Here's just a few.

- Brennan's change of heart after failing to identify Oswald
- Brennan's alleged ability to see the head shot shooter from the waist up
- Alyea's description of Fritz tampering with the crime scene
- The long bag not appearing in crime scene photos
- Givens' later "recollection" of going back for his cigarettes and seeing Oswald on the 6th floor
- The magic partial palmprint
- No documented chains of custody for the magic bullet, the "limo fragments", the revolver, or the revolver shells
- The February Klein's deposit slip for an alleged March order
- The police "finding" bullets and bus transfer in Oswald's pockets hours after his arrest
- No mention of Oswald's alleged punch in the arrest report
- O.P. Wright's account of a pointed bullet at the hospital
- The Mauser reports
- Whaley's time sheet
- Altered hospital times for Tippit's death
- Drain's two contradictory reports on the characteristics of the paper bag
- The "steel-jacketed" Walker bullet.

- Brennan's change of heart after failing to identify Oswald

Brennan's description of Oswald that was nearly identical with the Police radio broadcast at about 12:45 is powerful corroborating evidence for Brennan's eventual positive identification of Oswald.

- Brennan's alleged ability to see the head shot shooter from the waist up

Oswald sat on the ledge.

- Alyea's description of Fritz tampering with the crime scene

Evidence has to be examined and removed, it's one of the job descriptions.

- The long bag not appearing in crime scene photos

The bag was seen and testified as being in the sniper's nest by six Police officers.

- Givens' later "recollection" of going back for his cigarettes and seeing Oswald on the 6th floor

At first Givens was just trying to cover his own ass and in time he was asked more questions and gave more detailed answers. And didn't Givens see Oswald half an hour before the assassination, BFD!

- The magic partial palmprint

Which shows that Oswald's palm touched the actual rifle, good luck arguing that one.

- The February Klein's deposit slip for an alleged March order

LOL! That's it? That's how you plan on taking the rifle out of Oswald's hands! Hehehe.

- The police "finding" bullets and bus transfer in Oswald's pockets hours after his arrest

And the only way you "found" out about this evidence of the Police finding stuff is because the Police told you? Is this your definition of tainted? Hahaha!

And the rest is just more easily debunked nonsense, as your list gets longer and longer and more and more people become involved, your credibility in turn becomes weaker and weaker.

JohnM