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Regarding the Insertion from the top of Page 1.

August 26/19.  Three vids on YouTube concerning the subject matter.
Guests.  justoneguy - Jesus and the Sign of Jonah ...


Part 1 - Academic support.

Part 2 - Biblical support.
Part 3 - Loose ends and a final wrap up.
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Here again ... see clip. It does seem Augustus adjusted the Julian Calendar back to the way Sosigenes i
intended with a March 25th first day of spring.  Also notice how Pliny the Elder factors in.  He was born around 23 AD
so the observations presented from 11 AD to 15 AD came from the Pontifeces who were monitoring the calendar.  The Obelisk was
working correctly for a while and then ... it didn't. 

Btw ... The obelisk or gnomon - shadow clock - was working so correctly you will notice that after the leap year day was added
in 14 AD the position went back to the way it appeared in 11 AD when it was viewed in 15 AD.

For Guests the clip on YT is entitled - The Obelisk Meridian and Ara Pacis. 
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Here again ... see clip. It does seem Augustus adjusted the Julian Calendar back to the way Sosigenes i
intended with a March 25th first day of spring.  Also notice how Pliny the Elder factors in.  He was born around 23 AD
so the observations presented from 11 AD to 15 AD came from the Pontifeces who were monitoring the calendar.  The Obelisk was
working correctly for a while and then ... it didn't. 

Btw ... The obelisk or gnomon - shadow clock - was working so correctly you will notice that after the leap year day was added
in 14 AD the position went back to the way it appeared in 11 AD when it was viewed in 15 AD.

For Guests the clip on YT is entitled - The Obelisk Meridian and Ara Pacis.

Ever heard of the precession of the equinoxes?

Ever heard of Hamlet's Mill?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  ;)

PS  Do you believe we're living in The End Times?

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Hey, Tom.  Thx for responding.  I really don't know how the precession of the equinoxes could help or even hurt my theory.
Let alone, Hamlet's Mill.  The reason why I did present the clip was to show it is very possible the spring equinox could have
been March 25 after Augustus made his adjustments on the Julian Calendar.  If so, then just look at the simple math re the
11 minutes and 14 lag and go backwards from Pope Gregory's new version of keeping time set in 1582. 
1 day lost every 128 years or 129 years or 130 years.  Let alone the equation using 133 years.  Going backwards you would
get a first day of spring on March 23 at 46 AD, 34 AD or 22 AD.  There's no way the lag could have moved that much in such
a short time.  133 years would get you a March 22 day of spring at or around 119 AD.  Now factor in Pliny's observation
re the obelisk and how it hasn't showed the proper time for nearly 30 years.  If he made that observation around 59 AD
when he returned to Rome then that would line up with one of the traditional years of the Crucifixion.

Btw I'm not expecting an end of anything rather a new beginning.
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Hey, Tom.  Thx for responding.  I really don't know how the precession of the equinoxes could help or even hurt my theory.
Let alone, Hamlet's Mill.  The reason why I did present the clip was to show it is very possible the spring equinox could have
been March 25 after Augustus made his adjustments on the Julian Calendar.  If so, then just look at the simple math re the
11 minutes and 14 lag and go backwards from Pope Gregory's new version of keeping time set in 1582. 
1 day lost every 128 years or 129 years or 130 years.  Let alone the equation using 133 years.  Going backwards you would
get a first day of spring on March 23 at 46 AD, 34 AD or 22 AD.  There's no way the lag could have moved that much in such
a short time.  133 years would get you a March 22 day of spring at or around 119 AD.  Now factor in Pliny's observation
re the obelisk and how it hasn't showed the proper time for nearly 30 years.  If he made that observation around 59 AD
when he returned to Rome then that would line up with one of the traditional years of the Crucifixion.

Btw I'm not expecting an end of anything rather a new beginning.

Dan,

Have you read Hamlet's Mill?

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Dan,

Have you read Hamlet's Mill?

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Hey, Tom.  No I never read,[ Hamlet's Mill, but after you posted it I did check out opinions on the book and most
were negative.  I will look into it though given it is based on myths which I always enjoyed.  Incidentally, if the
book was meant as some kind of support towards my theory ... it really wouldn't help me at all.  It isn't by accident that
the title of my thread requires an Astrophysicist a/o an Archaeo- Astronomer.  Preferably one who is a Christian or, at the
very least, one with an open mind.  Those types of people are only interested with academic support, if you will, 

Here's two Academic reasons that I wish to present  ... again.  And?  It will probably do no good anyway.

1.  The early Christians used to celebrate the first day of spring, March 25, in the Julian Calendar as being BOTH the day
of the Crucifixion and the day of the Resurrection.  Occam's Razor?  The simplest explanation?  They did this to lure Pagan
converts.  This was true as far as the early Church was concerned but the early Christians did not do this.  They were more
concerned with Christ's imminent return.  Now, if my theory was correct that would have happened.  Christ could have be
crucified on the first day of spring and if the earth was thus affected as I've been stating then .. the day of the Resurrection
would have been on the first day of spring.  No one takes that seriously.

2.  If I'm correct and the earth was thus affected by rotating upon it's axis but not revolving around the sun for His birth and
the three days He spent in the tomb then the Heel Stone at Stonehenge which was to mark the solstice should have
been four days off.  Please note Stonehenge is indeed a pre-Christian structure.  And?  It is four days off.  Occam's Razor?
Simplest explanation?  The Heel Stone sank over the centuries.  Btw ... it weighs around 35 tons and if it sank straight down
then nothing would have changed.  If it tilted forward or backwards, the solstice would still have happened.  So, it just happened
to tip slightly the wrong way.  Can an Archaeo- Astronomer tell me if this was a local sinking or could it have been global with
other Stonehenge like astronomical monuments with there own Heel Stones sinking.  Was any Heel Stones moved?  Was there
an eclipse that happened or didn't happen etc ...  And, I do mean etc ....

If I'm wrong then, I'm wrong but I would like to know one way or the other.     
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Hey, Tom.  No I never read,[ Hamlet's Mill, but after you posted it I did check out opinions on the book and most
were negative.  I will look into it though given it is based on myths which I always enjoyed.  Incidentally, if the
book was meant as some kind of support towards my theory ... it really wouldn't help me at all.  It isn't by accident that
the title of my thread requires an Astrophysicist a/o an Archaeo- Astronomer.  Preferably one who is a Christian or, at the
very least, one with an open mind.  Those types of people are only interested with academic support, if you will, 

Here's two Academic reasons that I wish to present  ... again.  And?  It will probably do no good anyway.

1.  The early Christians used to celebrate the first day of spring, March 25, in the Julian Calendar as being BOTH the day
of the Crucifixion and the day of the Resurrection.  Occam's Razor?  The simplest explanation?  They did this to lure Pagan
converts.  This was true as far as the early Church was concerned but the early Christians did not do this.  They were more
concerned with Christ's imminent return.  Now, if my theory was correct that would have happened.  Christ could have be
crucified on the first day of spring and if the earth was thus affected as I've been stating then .. the day of the Resurrection
would have been on the first day of spring.  No one takes that seriously.

2.  If I'm correct and the earth was thus affected by rotating upon it's axis but not revolving around the sun for His birth and
the three days He spent in the tomb then the Heel Stone at Stonehenge which was to mark the solstice should have
been four days off.  Please note Stonehenge is indeed a pre-Christian structure.  And?  It is four days off.  Occam's Razor?
Simplest explanation?  The Heel Stone sank over the centuries.  Btw ... it weighs around 35 tons and if it sank straight down
then nothing would have changed.  If it tilted forward or backwards, the solstice would still have happened.  So, it just happened
to tip slightly the wrong way.  Can an Archaeo- Astronomer tell me if this was a local sinking or could it have been global with
other Stonehenge like astronomical monuments with there own Heel Stones sinking.  Was any Heel Stones moved?  Was there
an eclipse that happened or didn't happen etc ...  And, I do mean etc ....

If I'm wrong then, I'm wrong but I would like to know one way or the other.   

Dan,

You did see the link to Hamlet's Mill I provided you, right?

--  MWT  ;)

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Hey Thomas ... yes I did see the link.  I've been reading commentaries on, Hamlet's Mill.
Really interesting, much of the precession of the equinoxes I have heard before.  The major cycle
every 26,000 years or so.  The myths throughout the world and what they had in common etc
Thanks.
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