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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2019, 07:13:22 PM »
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Barry,
I believe that is indeed Mr. Underwood. This stabilized gif shows no hat while his glasses and raincoat are evident. The above annotated frame was grabbed while Underwood was leaning (or is it bending?) into the conversation with Craig while Darnell cranks his camera spring. Don Cook is present in some of the TSBD doorway scenes, some including Howard Brennan. Cook was not wearing an overcoat or raincoat, iirc.


Much obliged James.  I should know better by now than to use a still frame, especially when the full clip I just posted the link to... anyway, well worth it for that stable clip, ty.
Naturally we'd think that's Haygood again in the background but I guess technically it could be Hargis if it's around three minutes into it.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2019, 07:31:02 PM »
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    One of the Major stumbling blocks to the accepted time line you have bought into is DPD Officer Hargis MISSING from any Assassination Image showing the North Knoll. Hargis testified that he ran up to that Little Wall on the knoll. That is nowhere to be found on Any assassination image. My belief is the Camera Cars were at a Stop at the corner of Houston/Elm Longer than we have been led to believe. This same extended time goes for Hargis crossing Elm St and running to that Little Wall. And this same time extension would also apply to the JFK Limo being on Elm St and then being filmed by Wiegman going under the Triple Underpass.  Yeah, this is All about the JFK Limo either having slow-rolled down Elm St for an extended period of time, or possibly coming to a Stop. This would be roughly 30 seconds max having gone MIA.

I've posted everything I found on this Hargis issue here Royell and if you don't share my belief that Hargis actually ran directly towards Wiegman then there's nothing else I can do.  Weigman seems to have reacted to Hargis by lying awkwardly down and across the steps(no other reason fore him to do that), Mumford actually got up again and ran out of his way(that's another real clincher), Charles Hester scurrying to the back of the pergola seems also to be a direct result of seeing a cop running up the grass with his pistol out, Altgens#7 is explained, that big area of nothing but grass is exactly where the cop was running to and finally Bobby's actual position at the lamp post almost an exact straight line between his bike and Dave.  I hate to use it but... preponderance of evidence does sum it up rather nicely.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2019, 11:20:05 PM »
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Much obliged James.  I should know better by now than to use a still frame, especially when the full clip I just posted the link to... anyway, well worth it for that stable clip, ty.
Naturally we'd think that's Haygood again in the background but I guess technically it could be Hargis if it's around three minutes into it.

     Hargis's WC Testimony would rule out his being BEHIND the Pergola around 3 minutes after the Kill Shot. Either: (1) that is Not Hargis, or (2) the "around 3 minutes" time stamping of that snippet is Incorrect

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2019, 09:07:06 PM »
We know why he got back on his bike, you think he took the scenic route?
Bobby probably had it covered before Haygood even reached the corner and well before Darnell ever thought about heading that way.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2019, 01:25:27 AM »
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We know why he got back on his bike, you think he took the scenic route?
Bobby probably had it covered before Haygood even reached the corner and well before Darnell ever thought about heading that way.

     Are You claiming that Hargis: (1) traveled through the Triple Underpass, (2) then left Elm St, and (3) rode across the grass/Blazing his own trail UP into the railroad area? If so, familiarize yourself with the WC Testimony of Hargis.  Hargis details where he went after getting back onto his DPD Motorcycle on Elm St. The visual aide you have supplied is in conflict with Hargis's WC Testimony.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2019, 06:01:08 PM »
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Mr. HARGIS. Then I got back on my motorcycle, which was still running, and rode underneath the first underpass to look on the opposite side in order to see if I could see anyone running away from the scene, and since I didnít see anyone coming from that direction I rode under the second underpass, which is Stemmons Expressway Ďand went up around to see if I could see anyone coming from across Stemmons and back that way, and I couldnít see anything that was of a suspicious nature, so, I came back to the Texas School Book Depository. At that time it seemed like the activity was cen- tered around the Texas School Book Depository, so, that is when I heard someone say, one of the sergeants or lieutenants, I donít know, ďDonít let any- one out of the Texas School Book Depository,Ē and so, I went to a gap that had not been filled, which was at the southwest corner.

"At that time", IMHO is about ten to fifteen minutes after the hit.  So what was he doing in the meantime?  He wasn't asked. The way he described it above may read like he had a quick look then headed for Stemmons but if he was even half the cop most of us think he was then he would have done more than that, especially since "he was sure the shots came from close by".  There's even time enough for him to check Stemmons next, then come back to the RRY again and appear in that clip.  Anyway, it's probably Haygood in the Martin film I just thought I'd throw the alternative out there.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2019, 08:14:31 PM »
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"At that time", IMHO is about ten to fifteen minutes after the hit.  So what was he doing in the meantime?  He wasn't asked. The way he described it above may read like he had a quick look then headed for Stemmons but if he was even half the cop most of us think he was then he would have done more than that, especially since "he was sure the shots came from close by".  There's even time enough for him to check Stemmons next, then come back to the RRY again and appear in that clip.  Anyway, it's probably Haygood in the Martin film I just thought I'd throw the alternative out there.

     Based on the above, I am guessing that you have Now ditched that Steve McQueenish ride you claimed that motorcycle Officer Hargis mimicked in order to reach the railroad yard. This is progress. 
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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2019, 08:52:43 PM »
You see?  That's in your head Royell.  I said no such thing.  As for your reference, we know Haygood attempted something similar and fell on his behind, so yes, why the hell not?  Jackson actually got out CC1 after the TU, perhaps his influence to finally do so was in fact Hargis.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2019, 09:16:15 PM »
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We know why he got back on his bike, you think he took the scenic route?
Bobby probably had it covered before Haygood even reached the corner and well before Darnell ever thought about heading that way.

    As we see in Your visual aid above, You are claiming that Officer Hargis executed a Hard Right Immediately After going under the Triple Underpass and then rode UP that grassy embankment.  The Hargis WC testimony puts that Evel Knievel stuff to bed. As I said earlier, either that is Not Hargis in the background of the film snippet, or the current time stamp applied to that snippet, (roughly 4- 5 minutes after the Kill Shot), is Wrong.

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Re: Cook? Films Darnell Filming West Face of the TSBD (revised)
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2019, 02:05:34 AM »
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