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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2019, 05:30:39 AM »
I don’t know if he felt that a secure location. No doubt he trusted Marina and Ruth and we know he was happy to spend his money on Marina and the kids. Not so sure he would trust his rooming mates at North Beckley.

The fact that he took so little money with him when he left Irving in the morning indicates that he did not expect to go far from Dallas that day.

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I don’t know if he felt that a secure location. No doubt he trusted Marina and Ruth and we know he was happy to spend his money on Marina and the kids. Not so sure he would trust his rooming mates at North Beckley.

What has his Beckley roommates have to do with anything, when Oswald left the premises so did his wallet.

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The fact that he took so little money with him when he left Irving in the morning indicates that he did not expect to go far from Dallas that day

$13 in 1963 was worth a lot more than it is today.

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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2019, 06:23:11 AM »
What has his Beckley roommates have to do with anything, when Oswald left the premises so did his wallet.

$13 in 1963 was worth a lot more than it is today.

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So you think he took his wallet with him to the shower and toilet? Slept with it under his pillow maybe.

Likely last him about a weeks living expenses, you think?

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2019, 07:19:11 AM »
So you think he took his wallet with him to the shower and toilet? Slept with it under his pillow maybe.

Likely last him about a weeks living expenses, you think?

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So you think he took his wallet with him to the shower and toilet?

 Wow, what an unrelated diversion, I said when Oswald left the premises not while he was there because realistically the chances of someone going through his room while he was there would be practically nil and it's an odd argument to make?

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Slept with it under his pillow maybe.

We go from ridiculous the to the absurd, try again ffs?

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Likely last him about a weeks living expenses, you think?

Depends where he went but in the Walker note which was a similar situation but nowhere near as dangerous, he didn't seem like he expected to live "If I am alive...."?

Btw in the Walker note Oswald mentions that he is going to leave her as much money as he could, does that seem like Marina had equal access to Oswald's money?



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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2019, 07:39:30 AM »
Wow, what an unrelated diversion, I said when Oswald left the premises not while he was there because realistically the chances of someone going through his room while he was there would be practically nil and it's an odd argument to make?

We go from ridiculous the to the absurd, try again ffs?

Depends where he went but in the Walker note which was a similar situation but nowhere near as dangerous, he didn't seem like he expected to live "If I am alive...."?

Btw in the Walker note Oswald mentions that he is going to leave her as much money as he could, does that seem like Marina had equal access to Oswald's money?



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Happy to wait for the testimony from Marina that confirms Oswald normally kept about $200 on his person. The rest is speculation ffs.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2019, 07:55:45 AM »
Happy to wait for the testimony from Marina that confirms Oswald normally kept about $200 on his person.

How the heck would Marina know what Oswald normally kept on his person?, a more reasonable piece of testimony from Marina would be what money she personally had access to, and when did Marina say that Oswald kept as much of his money with Marina?

I think the Walker note sums it up perfectly, if Marina had an equal access marriage then there would be no need for Oswald to say that he will leave her as much as he could.



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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2019, 08:00:50 AM »
How the heck would Marina know what Oswald normally kept on his person?, a more reasonable piece of testimony from Marina would be what money she personally had access to, and when did Marina say that Oswald kept as much of his money with Marina?

I think the Walker note sums it up perfectly, if Marina had an equal access marriage then there would be no need for Oswald to say that he will leave her as much as he could.



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It was Charles who claimed she did. Happy to wait for the quotes. Clearly Oswald didn’t leave as much money as he could for Marina that day. He took $15 that morning. If he decided to shoot that day, no need for dough. If nothing happened, he merely get a lift back with Buell.

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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2019, 08:03:06 AM »
The rest is speculation ffs.

Before he leaves the bedroom, Lee kisses the children, as he always does, then walks to the bedroom door. He stops and returns to the side of the bed. He has always kissed his wife good-bye and Marina assumes he will do so now. But this time, she only hears his voice. “I’ve left some money on the bureau,” he says in his odd, if fluent, Russian. “Take it and buy everything you and Junie and Rachel need.
 In the dark he has left $170 in bills, and something else—his wedding ring, quietly placed in a little china teacup that had belonged to Marina’s grandmother. She won’t find it until later that day.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2019, 08:05:32 AM »
Before he leaves the bedroom, Lee kisses the children, as he always does, then walks to the bedroom door. He stops and returns to the side of the bed. He has always kissed his wife good-bye and Marina assumes he will do so now. But this time, she only hears his voice. “I’ve left some money on the bureau,” he says in his odd, if fluent, Russian. “Take it and buy everything you and Junie and Rachel need.
 In the dark he has left $170 in bills, and something else—his wedding ring, quietly placed in a little china teacup that had belonged to Marina’s grandmother. She won’t find it until later that day.
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I can hear the violins playing.......any quotes from Marina?

Apparently he only left notes for her when his assassination attempts were unsuccessful.

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2019, 08:11:47 AM »
I can hear the violins playing.......any quotes from Marina?

Vincent talked with Marina on a number of occasions but I don't know if this was specifically discussed but this "4 days in November" section of Reclaiming History was thoroughly researched and let's be honest anyone who lives in the real world would know Oswald would hold on to his own money it's a friggin no brainer.
Btw can your ideas be supported with anything besides illogical speculation?

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2019, 08:13:21 AM »
Apparently he only left notes for her when his assassination attempts were unsuccessful.

She knew the drill from the first note and in addition she was living with someone in a safe ongoing environment. Try again.

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