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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2019, 02:02:19 AM »
Hi Charles, I can certainly agree with your profile of Oswald. As you can tell from my previous post, I believe the assassination was more spontaneous than yourself but I'd be the first to admit that's only my opinion, your version may well be correct. What I can't agree with is your statement; "a very good surprise ambush plan that worked." Charles, Oswald walked into the TSBD the morning of the assassination carrying a rifle in a bag, he then 'hoped' the sixth floor would be empty, it nearly wasn't, Oswald then fires a rifle from a window...I'm sorry but I just see "a very good surprise ambush plan". In fact, I just can't see any real plan at all!

He didnít just fire from a window. He apparently: planned to go get his rifle, planned to get the rifle into the building discretely (the bag), planned the timing and direction of fire (from behind and with the target moving almost directly away) this is known as a killing zone in the military, planned his sniperís nest location such that he had good cover from being observed during the shooting (from inside or outside the building), planned the support for steadying the rifle (boxes), and planned to blend in as best he could during his exit from the scene. I think that anyone familiar with military tactics for ambushing would likely recognize  the apparent planning. Similar tactics are taught to Marine Corps soldiers and can be found in their manuals. LHO studied a USMC manual before he joined because he wanted to learn what his brother Robert was already learning.
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Online Colin Crow

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2019, 02:53:45 AM »
I believe that LHO would have gone ahead with his plan regardless of how Marina responded to his request. The temptation was too great for him. And he tried to make her feel partially responsible by leaving his ring, money, etc.

Where did he normally leave his savings?

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2019, 03:12:07 AM »
Where did he normally leave his savings?

Colin, where would Oswald keep his life savings?

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2019, 03:13:24 AM »
Where did he normally leave his savings?

He normally kept whatever he had on his person according to Marina.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2019, 03:25:40 AM »
Colin, where would Oswald keep his life savings?

JohnM

I figure, he could keep on his person. He could keep at the rooming house. He could keep in a bank account. He could keep at the Paine's in Marina'a room.

Given he was paid weekly in cash and had not seen Marina for two pay periods he was relatively "cashed up" that Thursday. Given he did not go back to the rooming house before visiting Marina he obviously did not keep it at that location. I donít believe he had a bank account. So, to take his total saving to work on the Friday seems risky. Safer to leave all but what he needed with Marina. Then again if he was going to shoot the Pres with no escape plan no need for $15. If he planned to escape, take the lot. If he had planned by Thursday morning, why not take the pistol too?

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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2019, 03:26:19 AM »
He normally kept whatever he had on his person according to Marina.

Any testimony to support Charles?

Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2019, 03:31:43 AM »
Safer to leave all but what he needed with Marina.

With his estranged wife, in an unsecured location?

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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2019, 04:34:55 AM »
With his estranged wife, in an unsecured location?

JohnM

As opposed to which secured location?

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2019, 04:45:13 AM »
As opposed to which secured location?

In Oswald's everyday wallet.

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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2019, 04:55:24 AM »
In Oswald's everyday wallet.

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I donít know if he felt that a secure location. No doubt he trusted Marina and Ruth and we know he was happy to spend his money on Marina and the kids. Not so sure he would trust his rooming mates at North Beckley.

The fact that he took so little money with him when he left Irving in the morning indicates that he did not expect to go far from Dallas that day.

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