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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #736 on: February 24, 2020, 07:40:32 PM »
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Then along comes Weitzman with his face to the floor so he see through the 3/4" gap between the side-board of the pallet and the floor.

Weitzman said that he shined his flashlight beneath the pallet and spotted the rifle.....  Do you doubt that he did?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #736 on: February 24, 2020, 07:40:32 PM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #737 on: February 25, 2020, 10:17:13 PM »
Wedging the rifle inside the space in the pallet would be a simple way the conspirators could get rifle to 6th floor with the minimal exposure of one of them being inside the TSBD

If there are pallets fully stacked with boxes that the conspirator KNOWS will be moved by forklift operator to the 6th floor BEFORE the JFK motorcade arrives in Dealey Plaza

Someone enters the TSBD by annex dock building early Friday via west side door and wedges rifle inside one the pallet on the ground floor with the wads of paper and then exits via same west side door

Exposure time is probably only about
30 secs if one of pallets is inside the annex bldg part of ground floor and not in LOS of employees on the ground floor. Inside the TSBD proper

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #738 on: February 25, 2020, 10:25:54 PM »
Wedging the rifle inside the space in the pallet would be a simple way the conspirators could get rifle to 6th floor with the minimal exposure of one of them being inside the TSBD

If there are pallets fully stacked with boxes that the conspirator KNOWS will be moved by forklift operator to the 6th floor BEFORE the JFK motorcade arrives in Dealey Plaza

Someone enters the TSBD by annex dock building early Friday via west side door and wedges rifle inside one the pallet on the ground floor with the wads of paper and then exits via same west side door

Exposure time is probably only about
30 secs if one of pallets is inside the annex bldg part of ground floor and not in LOS of employees on the ground floor. Inside the TSBD proper


The rifle was placed there beneath the pallet while the pallet was sitting on the sixth floor with boxes of books stacked on it.....   

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #738 on: February 25, 2020, 10:25:54 PM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #739 on: February 25, 2020, 11:15:43 PM »
Olay Walt, then if it were placed under the pallet the reason must be that in that location would be least probable place that rifle would be accidentally discovered before the shooting takes place

As opposed to having placed rifle between two vertical walls of boxes resting directly on the floor which might get moved individually as the workers were laying new sections of plywood floor prior to JFK motorcade arriving

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

If you are trying to set up a patsy to be suspected of having fired a rifle on that floor, placing a rifle with corroded barrel and misaligned scope seems a bit of a mistake imo

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #740 on: February 26, 2020, 12:54:24 AM »
Olay Walt, then if it were placed under the pallet the reason must be that in that location would be least probable place that rifle would be accidentally discovered before the shooting takes place

As opposed to having placed rifle between two vertical walls of boxes resting directly on the floor which might get moved individually as the workers were laying new sections of plywood floor prior to JFK motorcade arriving

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

If you are trying to set up a patsy to be suspected of having fired a rifle on that floor, placing a rifle with corroded barrel and misaligned scope seems a bit of a mistake imo

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

When the conspirators and the investigators are one and the same ....Who's going to argue with the vaunted  FBI???    The barrel could have had a spiders nest in it and the FBI would simple have lied and  still have declared it the murder weapon.....

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #740 on: February 26, 2020, 12:54:24 AM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #741 on: February 26, 2020, 02:09:08 AM »
Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

When the conspirators and the investigators are one and the same ....Who's going to argue with the vaunted  FBI???    The barrel could have had a spiders nest in it and the FBI would simple have lied and  still have declared it the murder weapon.....

"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.

    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #742 on: February 26, 2020, 02:24:43 AM »
"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.

    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550


"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.


Firing a rifle with dirt or corrosion in the barrel is highly dangerous.....  However if there is dirt or corrosion in the barrel, a single projectile fired through the barrel will wipe out that dirt or corrosion....   Perhaps you've forgotten that The FBI said that the rifle had had THREE projectiles through the barrel....  That means the bore would have been clean....BUT ...The FBI would not test the rifle until it had been cleaned and oiled....  They weren't fools....They weren't about to fire that rifle with the dirt and corrosion in the barrel......   



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #742 on: February 26, 2020, 02:24:43 AM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #743 on: February 28, 2020, 03:51:40 AM »
"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.

    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550
Whoever wrote that must have had corrosion of the brain. Rust and debris in the barrel of CE 139 can only indicate that it had not been fired that day. Some other rifle must have been used to shoot from that building.