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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #696 on: February 19, 2020, 11:25:55 PM »
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Studebaker is not aiming at the north edge of the pallet (where you just shifted your own location of the rifle). He's pointing here:

How do you explain the fact there is no bright sunlight illuminating the area ...and the box above the rifle is wide open?
The sealed box is the one stacked three-high.


Sealed box stacked three-high at upper-left; three open boxes visible between sealed box and tall stack
 


Sealed box stacked three-high at near-lower-left; three open boxes visible between sealed box and tall stack

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #696 on: February 19, 2020, 11:25:55 PM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #697 on: February 20, 2020, 01:39:15 AM »
The primary boxes north of the rifle are a row that's three-wide by two-high. They're all open in all the photos. What you pointing to is sealed box that on top of two others; it's sealed in all the photos.

No. The three open boxes don't move and the sealed box remains sealed.

Sunlight didn't get enough to the west side of the building for light to reach the tall stack until, I guess, 2:30 or later.



Studebaker took his in-situ photos about 1:25. The Alyea film shows no sunlight on the tall stack of boxes; Day had to take the rifle over to the window to see it better.

 

The sun also had to reach around the tall stack of carton on the pallet by the window. The post-discovery photos that have sunlight were taken much later than the in-situ photos.

C'mon Jerry...Try being honest with yourself......You know that the the boxes above the rifle that are wide open in the fake insitu photo were NOT wide open in the photo with the blue arrows.   And you should be intelligent enough to see that the fake in situ photo was taken after dark..... Just look at the box at camera left....That box should be bathed in bright sunshine but it is darker than the box that was directly in front of the camera flash.... IOW...the box to camera left didn't receive the same amount of light as the box directly in front of the camera.
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #698 on: February 20, 2020, 01:56:46 AM »
Studebaker is not aiming at the north edge of the pallet (where you just shifted your own location of the rifle). He's pointing here:



   Mr. BALL. Let's see the shots you took of the place where the gun was located?
   Mr. STUDEBAKER. I know it's mine because my knees are in the picture.

Studebaker is not aiming at the north edge of the pallet (where you just shifted your own location of the rifle). He's pointing here:

Of course not.....They had realized that Lee Oswald couldn't possible have hid the rifle beneath that pallet AFTER the shooting....So they had to move the rifle closer to the aisle to make it somewhat feasible for Lee to have put the rifle there ( as seen in there fake in situ photo) as he dashed by on his way with the encounter with Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom.

If you've viewed the WC "reenactment" of the insertion of the rifle then you should know beyond any doubt that Agent John Howlett couldn't replicate the imaginary  actions of Lee Oswald....So he had to used a light piece of 1" X 3" wood. He knew that he couldn't possibly have jammed the 8 pound, and 4 inch thick carcano  into the crack that was only 1 inch wide.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #698 on: February 20, 2020, 01:56:46 AM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #699 on: February 20, 2020, 02:19:30 AM »
C'mon Jerry...Try being honest with yourself......You know that the the boxes above the rifle that are wide open in the fake insitu photo were NOT wide open in the photo with the blue arrows.   

Now all three boxes are not open. And you can't orientate the one box that is sealed. You're gettin' to be a Ralph Cinque.

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And you should be intelligent enough to see that the fake in situ photo was taken after dark..... Just look at the box at camera left....That box should be bathed in bright sunshine but it is darker that the box that was directly in front of the camera flash.... IOW...the box to camera left didn't receive the same amount of light as the box directly in front of the camera.

The amount of light reflected back is conditioned on the how much surface is perpendicular to the flash.



Dark areas in a flash picture doesn't mean it was taken at night. Was this picture taken at night?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #700 on: February 20, 2020, 02:25:57 AM »
Studebaker is not aiming at the north edge of the pallet (where you just shifted your own location of the rifle). He's pointing here:

Of course not.....They had realized that Lee Oswald couldn't possible have hid the rifle beneath that pallet AFTER the shooting....So they had to move the rifle closer to the aisle to make it somewhat feasible for Lee to have put the rifle there ( as seen in there fake in situ photo) as he dashed by on his way with the encounter with Baker and Truly in the second floor lunchroom.

Boone and Weitzman guarded the site until it was photographed by Studebaker. Both Day and Studebaker said the rifle hadn't been touched prior to being picked up. Boone and Weitzman arrowed exhibits that point to the same row of boxes shown in the photos with the rifle on the floor.

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If you've viewed the WC "reenactment" of the insertion of the rifle then you should know beyond any doubt that Agent John Howlett couldn't replicate the imaginary  actions of Lee Oswald....So he had to used a light piece of 1" X 3" wood. He knew that he couldn't possibly have jammed the 8 pound, and 4 inch thick carcano  into the crack that was only 1 inch wide.

I don't think that trumps Boone, Weitzman and Studebaker.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #700 on: February 20, 2020, 02:25:57 AM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #701 on: February 20, 2020, 02:42:32 AM »
Now all three boxes are not open. And you can't orientate the one box that is sealed. You're gettin' to be a Ralph Cinque.

The amount of light reflected back is conditioned on the how much surface is perpendicular to the flash.



Dark areas in a flash picture doesn't mean it was taken at night. Was this picture taken at night?

You simply can't be honest can you, Jerry  ?   


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #702 on: February 20, 2020, 05:33:01 AM »
Just ask Fritz how many hulls he tossed onto the floor.
He died in 1984 you can try to ask him

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #702 on: February 20, 2020, 05:33:01 AM »


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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #703 on: February 20, 2020, 06:14:44 AM »
The sealed box is the one stacked three-high.


Sealed box stacked three-high at upper-left; three open boxes visible between sealed box and tall stack
 


Sealed box stacked three-high at near-lower-left; three open boxes visible between sealed box and tall stack
Let's get this straight. You think Oswald shot that rifle from the 6th floor SE corner window very slowly because that is what Steve Austin's(Brennan) bionic eye-witnessed. And then you think Oswald ran as fast as Steve Austin across the 6th floor slowing down to calmly placed the rifle in that awful awkward spot and then raced down the stairs undetected like the invisible man, reappearing for Baker and all like it was a walk in the park. That is crazy. So he must have been the invisible man when leaving the building too, right?