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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2019, 06:43:29 PM »
LOL.  I asked a straightforward question.  You apparently don't know the answer.  So we get the usual CT commentary instead of answers.  It seems pretty obvious that if Oswald carried the rifle in that bag (and he did) that it was dissembled if the assembled rifle is longer than the bag.  I'm not sure why think that has to be "worked out."  The question that I posed to you is what is meant by "dissembled" in this context.  What is the fewest possible pieces that his rifle would be in to make it fit the bag?  For example, could the barrel be removed from the stock and fit it in the bag?  Only two large pieces rather than breaking the rifle completely down into multiple pieces.  Far easier to carry the rifle in two large pieces than with multiple smaller pieces.  And why folding it on one end constitutes some type of "security" issue for the contents is a mystifying concern.  Anyone who carries a lunch bag just folds the top end and gravity does the rest.  The contents don't fly out of the top to the moon.  Same with Oswald's bag.  He carries the folded end up and there is no problem.

Part of removal up to where the Barrel can be realeased from the stock.

Remove bolt.
Remove bayonet lug screw.
Remove bayonet lug.
Unscrew the sling (Front barrel band) bracket.
Remove wooden barrel cover.
Remove the 2 action screws for trigger guard.(This releases the barrel from the stock.)

And the opposite to re assemble. Hardly a simple operation especially without a screwdriver.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2019, 06:44:21 PM by Ray Mitcham »

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2019, 10:41:51 PM »
Part of removal up to where the Barrel can be realeased from the stock.

Remove bolt.
Remove bayonet lug screw.
Remove bayonet lug.
Unscrew the sling (Front barrel band) bracket.
Remove wooden barrel cover.
Remove the 2 action screws for trigger guard.(This releases the barrel from the stock.)

And the opposite to re assemble. Hardly a simple operation especially without a screwdriver.

Pretty sure no screws are needed for the bolt or wooden barrel cover. And how does a screwdriver continue to be a factor in removing the bayonet lug after the bayonet lug has already been loosened by said screwdriver? You wouldn't be padding your list here, now would you?


Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2019, 12:44:19 AM »
Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2019, 02:16:50 AM »
Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?

Yes, something is wrong. Earlier today all posts after January 17th had disappeared. Perhaps we should stop posting until it is sorted to avoid an even bigger mess.

Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #94 on: May 26, 2019, 02:24:45 AM »
Yes, something is wrong. Earlier today all posts after January 17th had disappeared. Perhaps we should stop posting until it is sorted to avoid an even bigger mess.

Fwiw,

I've been posting just about every day since I joined.  When I go to my profile page and click on "show posts," the most recent ones I see now are some I posted way back on May 19.

-- MWT  ;)
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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2019, 06:11:52 AM »
Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?

Posted again, Colin.

A better narrative on the second go.  ;D

In future, I'm saving original posts "text" in a WORD file on a hard drive.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #96 on: May 26, 2019, 08:59:46 AM »
Posted again, Colin.

A better narrative on the second go.  ;D

In future, I'm saving original posts "text" in a WORD file on a hard drive.

Thanks Ross  Thumb1:

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2019, 09:09:46 AM »
Pretty sure no screws are needed for the bolt
It doesn't say a screwdriver is necessary to remove the bolt.- Learn to read correctly, Chappers.
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or wooden barrel cover.
The top wooden barrel cover won't come off until the bayonet lug and the front sling holder are removed by a screwdriver.

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And how does a screwdriver continue to be a factor in removing the bayonet lug after the bayonet lug has already been loosened by said screwdriver?
You have to unscrew the front sling holder after the bayonet lug again with a screwdriver.
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You wouldn't be padding your list here, now would you?
No, but maybe you know your own tricks best, Chappers.


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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2019, 12:15:58 PM »
Looks like we have lost a few days postings in this thread and another complete thread that Ross (?) started with the Dan Rather paper bag recreation. Are we working off a backup from 4 days ago?

Its deja vu, all over again.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2019, 02:39:48 PM »
Perhaps I can summarise the various points we may have lost from the past few days postings. My memory is not great so forgive me and please add where appropriate.

I asked if there was any evidence that the "open end" of the bag was ever sealed.

Richard Smith suggested that a fold over without fixed sealing might suffice.

Jack Nessan suggested that the sack was actually 42 in length and could have contained an assembled rifle.

JohnM suggested that the end could have been cut with scissors and therefore could have contained either a disassembled or an intact rifle.

Gary Craig provided an FBI (?) document that summarised a re-enactment with LMR that stated Oswald held the package like a baseballer would pick up and carry a bat at one end.

Ross Lidell provided a TV recreation by Dan Rather suggesting a possible solution to the Frazier observation of about 2 foot package.

During the discussion I claimed that LMR and BWF would have known Oswald was the suspect when she visited the Paine's to inform the cops of his "suspicious" package.

« Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 02:43:52 PM by Colin Crow »

 

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