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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2019, 01:43:23 AM »
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Great.  Then you have proved my point.  And to take this to the logical extreme, if the bag had contained "forensic evidence of ever holding the TSBD Carcano" (whatever that might be) you would claim that was planted as well.  And on and on and on down the yellow brick road.  Any evidence of Oswald's guilt is dismissed as fake.  So there is no evidence of Oswald's guilt.  Catch 22 of CTer logic.

if the bag had contained "forensic evidence of ever holding the TSBD Carcano" (whatever that might be) you would claim that was planted as well.

Utterly irrelevant speculation since the bag did not contain any kind of forensic evidence to link it to any Carcano.

And on and on and on down the yellow brick road.  Any evidence of Oswald's guilt is dismissed as fake.

There's the pot calling the kettle black! There is no evidence whatsoever that a Carcano was ever concealed or carried in that bag. There isn't even evidence that it is the bag Oswald carried, but despite those facts you will continue to claim that the bag somehow is evidence of Oswald's guilt. Even worse, even the slightest suggestion that evidence was possibly tampered with is considered proof by you that Oswald was guilty.

You considering Oswald to be guilty isn't based on the actual evidence. It's based on pure blind faith regardless of what the evidence really shows. It's truly pathetic.

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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2019, 01:47:51 AM »
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if the bag had contained "forensic evidence of ever holding the TSBD Carcano" (whatever that might be) you would claim that was planted as well.

Utterly irrelevant speculation since the bag did not contain any kind of forensic evidence to link it to any Carcano.

And on and on and on down the yellow brick road.  Any evidence of Oswald's guilt is dismissed as fake.

There's the pot calling the kettle black! There is no evidence whatsoever that a Carcano was ever concealed or carried in that bag. There isn't even evidence that it is the bag Oswald carried, but despite those facts you will continue to claim that the bag somehow is evidence of Oswald's guilt. Even worse, even the slightest suggestion that evidence was possibly tampered with is considered proof by you that Oswald was guilty.

You considering Oswald to be guilty isn't based on the actual evidence. It's based on pure blind faith regardless of what the evidence really shows. It's truly pathetic.

Weidmann,

If the Carcano had been carried in that bag, what kind of evidence indicating same would you reasonably expect to find?

-- MWT  :)
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« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2019, 02:01:56 AM »
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Weidmann,

If the Carcano had been carried in that bag, what kind of evidence indicating same would you reasonably expect to find?

-- MWT  :)

Graves,

It's a mute point. No evidence of a rifle having been carried in that bag was found. A far better question IMO would be why anybody would argue that a rifle had been carried in that bag when there is no evidence for it and it can not even be proven that the bag is the same one Oswald carried that morning.

Stop living in a dreamworld and try to deal with the known facts rather than what you want the outcome to be.
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« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2019, 03:24:52 AM »
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Graves,

It's a mute point. No evidence of a rifle having been carried in that bag was found. A far better question IMO would be why anybody would argue that a rifle had been carried in that bag when there is no evidence for it and it can not even be proven that the bag is the same one Oswald carried that morning.

Stop living in a dreamworld and try to deal with the known facts rather than what you want the outcome to be.

Weidmann,

I somehow knew you wouldn't want to answer that question.

For the simple reason that you can't.

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« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2019, 01:21:01 PM »
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Weidmann,

I somehow knew you wouldn't want to answer that question.

For the simple reason that you can't.

-- MWT  :)

Just as I knew you wouldn't accept any answer I gave you anyway.

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« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2019, 01:21:01 PM »

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« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2019, 01:49:32 PM »
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Weidmann,

If the Carcano had been carried in that bag, what kind of evidence indicating same would you reasonably expect to find?

-- MWT  :)

Were both ends of CE142 folded over and sealed to contain the disassembled carcano? If so does anyone have any pictures of the bag that demonstrate that was the case?

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« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2019, 02:31:13 PM »
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You're wrong as usual as NO evidence points to LHO as you falsely claim. That's why this is still be discussed 55 years later. We have no way of knowing if his prints were on anything since the person working with the prints said that he had never seen LHO's hands to know what his prints looked like.

By the way, what paper bag?

Even the most outlandish fringe kook shouldn't use terms like "NO evidence."  It's not only embarrassing but dishonest.  Oswald's rifle, bullet casings, prints, lies, absence of an alibi, flight, and resisting arrest are classic examples of evidence in a crime.  In fact, it's difficult to imagine what more evidence there could be. Perhaps you can enlighten us, though, as to what evidence is missing from the record relating to Oswald's guilt.  While you are at it, maybe cite us to the "evidence" that links someone else to this crime.  Use the same impossible, subjective interpretation of that term that you apply in the case of Oswald.   Good luck. 

btw:  how is the search going for that dead SS agent?  You must be spending countless hours going through the short list of agents to find the one who disappeared from history after 11.22.  I know you want to solve the case and wouldn't just post a claim that you believe is baseless but go the extra mile to find the truth.  Inspiring.

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« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2019, 11:20:21 PM »
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Already did countless times, but you LNers whined and had it removed. By the way, when do you cite for any of your claims?

What 'claims' might those be? You wouldn't happen to be mistaking those of my posts that are written in mocking fashion for a claim, now would you?

Re the prints on the gun bag, are you talking about JC Day and/or RL Studebaker by any chance?

And your series was removed because you were hogging the front pages. Duncan clearly explained that to you.

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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2019, 11:32:29 PM »
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Bingo Ray. The FBI expert couldn't say how old the prints were either. LHO worked there so of course he touched boxes.

So the Oswald fingerprint and palm print aiming the top box right down Broadway were just a coincidence.

Got it. Ray & Ron. Holmes & Watson right there.
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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2019, 12:22:00 AM »
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So the Oswald fingerprint and palm print aiming the top box right down Broadway were just a coincidence.

Got it. Ray & Ron. Holmes & Watson right there.

So the Oswald fingerprint and palm print aiming the top box right down Broadway were just a coincidence.

No, not a coincidence. Just something you like to make up without knowing any of it for certain.

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